Defend Marriage Between a Man and a Woman!

[T-Dawg]

Certain people want to defend what Christians believe is immoral. Both sides of the debate have medical professionals in their corner. Wicked people have always defended their actions with "arguments" that on the surface might seem halfway logical. People intent on doing evil surround themselves with teachers saying exactly what they want to hear. This debate is an issue of the heart in my opinion, not logic/medical facts.

Such words are evil.

EVERYTHING is an issue of logical facts. Logic and empirical reality are the only reliable mechanisms with which to make decisions, and all else is wickedness. Our blood pumping organs have nothing to do with the issue that a large group of profane deviants wish to deny basic rights to decent homosexual people.


Everyone else has already gone over why homosexuals should be allowed to marry and raise children, but I'll emphasize another thing - it doesn't matter if you feel that a mother and father are both necessary to raise a child. The fact is, without homosexuals raising children, the amount of children being raised with no parents is higher than it would otherwise be. Besides, the nuclear family is a relatively new invention - heck, a lot of characters in the Bible were raised under the standard of polygamy. The idea of marrying out of love, rather than as a political maneuver, is also relatively new. History has survived without the nuclear family.

 

[Father Heathen]

so pessimistic! lol

It's called "math".

 

[Falvlun]

Certain people want to defend what Christians believe is immoral. Both sides of the debate have medical professionals in their corner. Wicked people have always defended their actions with "arguments" that on the surface might seem halfway logical. People intent on doing evil surround themselves with teachers saying exactly what they want to hear. This debate is an issue of the heart in my opinion, not logic/medical facts.

If it's just a matter of the heart, don't you find it rather heartless to deny two people who love each other the opportunity to marry each other?

 

[Father Heathen]

Certain people want to defend what Christians believe is immoral. Both sides of the debate have medical professionals in their corner. Wicked people have always defended their actions with "arguments" that on the surface might seem halfway logical. People intent on doing evil surround themselves with teachers saying exactly what they want to hear. This debate is an issue of the heart in my opinion, not logic/medical facts.

What is "wicked" is wishing to restrict the rights and freedoms of others, and wallowing in willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Father Heathen]

If it's just a matter of the heart, don't you find it rather heartless to deny two people who love each other the opportunity to marry each other?

Their stance is devoid of both reason or compassion. It's totally senseless and arbitrary.

 

[Kathryn]

Marriage between a man and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

 

[Draka]

What does marriage have to do with who has and raises children? What does one have to do with the other in legal regards? And why would there be any need to "defend" hetero marriage? It's not like they are in jeopardy. It's not like same sex marriage affects hetero marriage in any way.

 

[Father Heathen]

Marriage between a man and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

Therefore?

 

[Father Heathen]

What does marriage have to do with who has and raises children? What does one have to do with the other in legal regards? And why would there be any need to "defend" hetero marriage? It's not like they are in jeopardy. It's not like same sex marriage affects hetero marriage in any way.

They constantly say hetero marriage is "threatened" or "under attack", but they never give a clear explanation on how the marriages of heterosexual couples would be impacted by homosexual couples marrying. There is no logical coherency behind their hysteria.

 

[waitasec]

Marriage between a man and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

isn't love sacred...it doesn't matter if it's between a man and a woman
it has to be between two people. period.

 

[Pegg]

It's called "math".

according to some estimates, the average land mass of earth is 150,000,000sq km


divide that between 7 billion people and you each have 4.6 sq kilometers.

Maybe we need to spread out a bit.

 

[Pegg]

What does marriage have to do with who has and raises children? What does one have to do with the other in legal regards? And why would there be any need to "defend" hetero marriage? It's not like they are in jeopardy. It's not like same sex marriage affects hetero marriage in any way.

thats very true, i dont believe it would affect hetro sexual marriage in the slightest.

 

[waitasec]

I agree that politics has become almost ridiculous in many aspects.
Still, we have laws because "not all men & women are angels."
And we have rights of all kinds, but to even exist to have rights requires procreation of CHILDREN. So, children are of paramount importance when deciding laws for the benefit of society.
Each child is naturally conceived by an egg from a mother and a sperm from a father.
They also need both a mother and father to best thrive & to imitate how the opposite sexes relate to each other.

however, 2 women are potentially capable of conceiving a child...
Human Sperm Made From Bone Marrow, A New Hope for Male Infertility, Also for Lesbians? | Yuan Ade Sukma's Blog

 

[Draka]

according to some estimates, the average land mass of earth is 150,000,000sq km


divide that between 7 billion people and you each have 4.6 sq kilometers.

Maybe we need to spread out a bit.

And where do we plant the crops and raise the farm animals we need to feed those people? And what of all the land that is inhospitable to life in general?

 

[Pegg]

They constantly say hetero marriage is "threatened" or "under attack", but they never give a clear explanation on how the marriages of heterosexual couples would be impacted by homosexual couples marrying. There is no logical coherency behind their hysteria.

it would not destabalize hetrosexual marriage, but it would have an impact on the perceptions of young children growing up in an environment where same sex marriage is normal. It might be confusing for some.

 

[Drolefille]

according to some estimates, the average land mass of earth is 150,000,000sq km


divide that between 7 billion people and you each have 4.6 sq kilometers.

Maybe we need to spread out a bit.

Sorry, were you volunteering to move to the tundra? There are hundreds of logistical reasons why that's completely irrational when it comes to a reply.

I have found no legitimate argument against the civil recognition of same-sex marriage. Religions have the ability and right to recognize or ignore marriage as they see fit. But the government has no right to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation or gender.

And anyone who wants to post about how an opposite sex couple are better for children should provide statistics to back it up.

 

[Pegg]

And where do we plant the crops and raise the farm animals we need to feed those people? And what of all the land that is inhospitable to life in general?

with all our technology and knowledge, surely we would have learned how to tame the inhospitable environments. They are talking about living on the moon, so if they can do that, then surely we can tame the earth which already has an atmosphere.

 

[Father Heathen]

it would not destabalize hetrosexual marriage, but it would have an impact on the perceptions of young children growing up in an environment where same sex marriage is normal. It might be confusing for some.

How so?

 

[Father Heathen]

with all our technology and knowledge, surely we would have learned how to tame the inhospitable environments. They are talking about living on the moon, so if they can do that, then surely we can tame the earth which already has an atmosphere.

So where is all of the money, labor and resources to do this coming from? Who is going to lead the planning and development?

 

[Draka]

with all our technology and knowledge, surely we would have learned how to tame the inhospitable environments. They are talking about living on the moon, so if they can do that, then surely we can tame the earth which already has an atmosphere.

We can't tamper with everything you know. And you didn't address the first question. What of farms? This really is a separate topic though and should have its own thread.