Degradation of Porn

[Saint Frankenstein]

Think what you like, but I think the reality if obvious.

Perhaps, but it's far from what you're saying. Porn isn't some seedy underground thing run by the mafia anymore. The Internet has revolutionized it like it has for all other forms of media. The studio model is going by the wayside. You can be a pornstar with just a camera and an Internet connection. You never have to have sex with strangers or anyone at all if you don't want to.

 

[Shaul]

The root basis of porn is also the root reason it is wrong, it is selfish. Hedonism is not a positive thing.

 

[SomeRandom]

I believe you that there is. But nevertheless if a person wants to watch porn they are going for some kind of sexual satisfaction which is artificially deprived of emotional content and realism. There is no actual other human you have to deal with in satisfying it, one can be purely a consumer. I think that ain't so useful.

Well that's the entire point of the need. I mean, it's pretty useless to want to have the feeling of intoxication and drink soft drink.
Drink responsibly, fap responsibly.

People will do what they do.

I can't really say I am in favour of banning porn, to be honest. I agree with you totally that that wouldn't solve anything. What I reckon would be nice would be more people recognising the harmfulness of pornography and refraining from engaging with it.

I think minimizing the so called "harmfulness" of pornography is possible. Education, more variety, support for addicts etc.
It's a lot more attainable than simply wishing lonely people would stop........er pleasing themselves.

Well, that's part of the concern I suppose. But as I said in my first point in this post, it's also about approaching sex as a consumer, rather than as a relating being. It's bringing in this mentality of product and user, when there are in genuine (and at least vaguely healthy!) sexual encounters two souls having some kind of interaction.

Sometimes that's all sex really is. I hate to break this to you, but casual sex has been a thing for literally generations.
And don't forget, Sex sells. That has been a showbiz mantra since before Shakespeare's day. No point complaining about reality. People have fantasies, sometimes a healthier release is to watch porn, if you catch my drift.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You mean hypocrites who claim to be Christians. Jesus has already stated in the scriptures what He thinks.

So Christians cannot sin? That is amazing. I did not know that.

 

[LiveBetterLife]

The root basis of porn is also the root reason it is wrong, it is selfish. Hedonism is not a positive thing.

It can be if harnessed properly.

 

[LiveBetterLife]

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That video sucks.

 

[InChrist]

The root basis of porn is also the root reason it is wrong, it is selfish. Hedonism is not a positive thing.

Yes, selfishness is the root and the sad thing is that many young people, teenagers, and kids as young as 10-11years old get drawn into porn when they are already at a self-centered time of life and too often become addicted to porn and form selfish attitudes toward others with regard to sex.

 

[LiveBetterLife]

Yes, selfishness is the root and the sad thing is that many young people, teenagers, and kids as young as 10-11years old get drawn into porn when they are already at a self-centered time of life and too often become addicted to porn and form selfish attitudes toward others with regard to sex.

Once again:

NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS AT ALL.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes, selfishness is the root and the sad thing is that many young people, teenagers, and kids as young as 10-11years old get drawn into porn when they are already at a self-centered time of life and too often become addicted to porn and form selfish attitudes toward others with regard to sex.

Meh. I first saw porn when I was around 5 years old. It didn't ruin my life and I'm hardly addicted. I know porn isn't "real sex" (for the most part). It's just sex.

 

[InChrist]

So Christians cannot sin? That is amazing. I did not know that.

I never said Christians can't sin. "Christian" hypocrites are those who claim to be Christians, yet sin and hide it or pretend they don't and come across as more righteous as others.

 

[InChrist]

Once again:

NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS AT ALL.

You just keep saying there is no evidence, but have you looked into the subject or do prefer to turn a blind eye to justify pornography as a worthwhile past time?

 

[InChrist]

Meh. I first saw porn when I was around 5 years old. It didn't ruin my life and I'm hardly addicted. I know porn isn't "real sex" (for the most part). It's just sex.

It's not sex, though, it's fake, it's a performance. Anyway, don't you think it is rather perverse to sit there and watch people in sexual acts. I mean would you be an audience in real life watching people have sex?

 

[LiveBetterLife]

You just keep saying there is no evidence, but have you looked into the subject or do prefer to turn a blind eye to justify pornography as a worthwhile past time?

I've read and watched everything you've thrown at me in this thread and it's actually worse than junk science; it's a bunch of inaccurate ranting and unverified information pointing to a misleading conclusion.

You've basically resolved to hate porn first; then fill in all the gaps later - it's counter-intuitive.

The entire premise of this thread has been totally shot down. You get a better grip on veracity if you are going to get anywhere in the future.

 

[LiveBetterLife]

It's not sex, though, it's fake, it's a performance. Anyway, don't you think it is rather perverse to sit there and watch people in sexual acts. I mean would you be an audience in real life watching people have sex?

Um, it's been done once or twice before.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I never said Christians can't sin. "Christian" hypocrites are those who claim to be Christians, yet sin and hide it or pretend they don't and come across as more righteous as others.

So, Christians.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It's not sex, though, it's fake, it's a performance. Anyway, don't you think it is rather perverse to sit there and watch people in sexual acts. I mean would you be an audience in real life watching people have sex?

Amateur porn is a thing, you know.

Voyeurism isn't anything weird to me. Sure, I'd watch people have sex if they were okay with it.

 

[screwyupsidedown19]

It's not sex, though, it's fake, it's a performance. Anyway, don't you think it is rather perverse to sit there and watch people in sexual acts. I mean would you be an audience in real life watching people have sex?

To each his own. Why judge people? I don’t judge people who smoke even though I hate the smell of it and it can actually kill them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's not sex, though, it's fake, it's a performance. Anyway, don't you think it is rather perverse to sit there and watch people in sexual acts. I mean would you be an audience in real life watching people have sex?

The sex is very real. You might need to watch more porn. Being real does not mean that it cannot be a performance too.

 

[oldbadger]

This post really shows your confusion and illiteracy when it comes to Bible comprehension of God's different dealings with the nation of Israel, the church, the law and grace.

Insults to me about my literacy etc cannot help you now.
And it's no good to pretend that this law applies, but that doesn't. You'll snatch a law from (say) Leviticus when it suits your self-righteousness, and deny the next one right beside the first.
The shallowness and hypocrisy is clear for all to see.

Paul's writing were not wicked. He reminded slave owners that they were not above those they had as salves and that all were equal in God's sight. He reminded believers that they were all once slaves to sin but set free by Christ. He definitely planted the seeds of change in attitude toward slavery because the gospel and slavery are incompatible.

What! ?
Can you read the verses that have been put before you?
I ask you again.... please tell us all that the following verses were wrong!

Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. (1 Peter 2:18)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear (Ephesians 6:5)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything (Colossians 3:22)

Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them (Titus 2:9)

I can just imagine Paul telling all that to sex slaves, as well as all the others.

Now please tell us that Paul was wrong about this, or save your 'righteousness' for more gullible readers.

 

[Kirran]

Well that's the entire point of the need. I mean, it's pretty useless to want to have the feeling of intoxication and drink soft drink.
Drink responsibly, fap responsibly.

People will do what they do.

I think minimizing the so called "harmfulness" of pornography is possible. Education, more variety, support for addicts etc.
It's a lot more attainable than simply wishing lonely people would stop........er pleasing themselves.

Believe me, I have no issue at all with people jerking off! I was pretty surprised when I was in uni, and a friend of mine said 'Oh did you go for a w***? Oh no, wait, you didn't have your laptop, nevermind'. There's that reliance so many people have developed on gratuitous visual stimulation to even be able to get aroused.

Sometimes that's all sex really is. I hate to break this to you, but casual sex has been a thing for literally generations.
And don't forget, Sex sells. That has been a showbiz mantra since before Shakespeare's day. No point complaining about reality. People have fantasies, sometimes a healthier release is to watch porn, if you catch my drift.

I know -_- I may even have had casual sex. But it's still different to just consuming imagery!