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Democrats had better not even think of it.

Shad

Veteran Member
1) If the judge had sympathy for Hampton's white supremacist views, what would that be?

Bias

An unbiased position? Pretty naive.

Nope and nope.

2) Nope. Lack of prejudice is not grounds for mistrial.

Hampton, his lawyer rather, is claiming the judges objection to Hampton's WS is a prejudice. If the lawyer can make a case for it the lawyer can file for a mistrial.

They brought it up in relation to the crime.

Nope as it was specific to the judge as per your own citation. You do not read what you cite. Simple as that.

They didn't bring up his ideological feelings about pets.

And they didn't bring it up about motive either. Your point is nonsensical babble.

You are clueless. I am not arguing the judge is biased. I am pointing out Hampton, his lawyer, is claiming the judge is.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Bias



Nope and nope.



Hampton, his lawyer rather, is claiming the judges objection to Hampton's WS is a prejudice. If the lawyer can make a case for it the lawyer can file for a mistrial.



Nope as it was specific to the judge as per your own citation. You do not read what you cite. Simple as that.



And they didn't bring it up about motive either. Your point is nonsensical babble.

You are clueless. I am not arguing the judge is biased. I am pointing out Hampton, his lawyer, is claiming the judge is.
Bias



Nope and nope.



Hampton, his lawyer rather, is claiming the judges objection to Hampton's WS is a prejudice. If the lawyer can make a case for it the lawyer can file for a mistrial.



Nope as it was specific to the judge as per your own citation. You do not read what you cite. Simple as that.



And they didn't bring it up about motive either. Your point is nonsensical babble.

You are clueless. I am not arguing the judge is biased. I am pointing out Hampton, his lawyer, is claiming the judge is.

Right. It would be bias. So, that the judge is not sympathetic (not the same as objection, as you keep stating), in your mind is also bias. What would be an unbiased position?

The judge and the defendant can't possibly have all their sympathies aligned. That's obvious. So, why bring this particular one into play, if it in actuality has nothing to do with the case? Why not make a list of things the judge may, or may not be sympathetic towards?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Right. It would be bias. So, that the judge is not sympathetic (not the same as objection, as you keep stating), in your mind is also bias. What would be an unbiased position?

You are still clueless. Hampton, not I, is claiming bias based on the judge's objection to Hampton's WS. It is a lawyers trick. One which I do not buy. Get it now? Do I need to draw you a map?

You have conflated me explaining it to you as if I believed it myself..... I do not.....

The judge and the defendant can't possibly have all their sympathies aligned. That's obvious. So, why bring this particular one into play, if it in actuality has nothing to do with the case?

Again it is a lawyers trick. Why bring it up? To get the lightest sentence possible as the lawyer can claim anything higher is due to the judge's object to Hampton's WS thus a prejudice thus leading to a mistrial. Provided some foolish judge buys a load of BS. Hence why I said it was smear targeting the judge's ability to be neutral.

Why not make a list of things the judge may, or may not be sympathetic towards?

No reason to as judges are expected to bias free as possible.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
You are still clueless. Hampton, not I, is claiming bias based on the judge's objection to Hampton's WS. It is a lawyers trick. One which I do not buy. Get it now? Do I need to draw you a map?

You have conflated me explaining it to you as if I believed it myself..... I do not.....



Again it is a lawyers trick. Why bring it up? To get the lightest sentence possible as the lawyer can claim anything higher is due to the judge's object to Hampton's WS thus a prejudice thus leading to a mistrial. Provided some foolish judge buys a load of BS. Hence why I said it was smear targeting the judge's ability to be neutral.



No reason to as judges are expected to bias free as possible.

No. I know exactly what you're trying to say. And, apparently going any further with you is pointless, possibly resulting in yet another 'clueless' insult.

But, humor me: What would be an unbiased position towards WS? Just curious.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
No. I know exactly what you're trying to say. And, apparently going any further with you is pointless, possibly resulting in yet another 'clueless' insult.

If you did you would have understood my point from the start. You didn't ergo you are still clueless and in denial about your mistake. Instead we have you being confused about what I said all while replying to me based on your misunderstanding. Asking me to defend a position I do not believe and called a lawyers trick. All started as you can't tell the difference between motive and what Hampton claims about the judge. Remember it was your blunder in which you cited something that has nothing to do with motive as if motive.

But, humor me: What would be an unbiased position towards WS? Just curious.

One which does not let one's own bias influence their judgement.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why is it that Trump can repeatedly demean others, which he does pretty much on a near daily basis, but if Hillary complains about his behavior that's somehow a mortal sin?
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Even Rand Paul is voicing concerns.

Has the Democrat Party gone this far over the edge that they become a credible threat?

The level of anger has risen and so people are voicing their fears.

It is also politically expedient to raise fear in order to motivate one's constituents (to vote)...especially if they have been fed on a diet of fear and lies for a long time.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nope. Ended up that a terrorist Trump Disciple sent pipe-bombs to various people, so it seems that the right is a bigger threat if potential violence has any weight.
Oh, I'm sure there is enough violence to go around. Question is who to blame for riling people up enough to do so.

Poll: Nearly 4 In 5 Voters Concerned Incivility Will Lead To Violence

Actually I'm in the minority, but I would say irresponsible media is to blame for all the rhetoric spewing out and getting the fringe on both sides all up in the tisy.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Being uncivil is not in any way speaking to violence or terrorism. So, what's your point? She is obviously talking about the incivility that Trump has made popular with his divisive rhetoric, encouragement of violence against the left, etc.

It's been over a month since I posted what you're quoting, so I didn't recall. I looked back and checked the context earlier in the thread, which is what you should have done. Then you would have understood the point.

I think this points up another form of incivility, when people try to pretend that they don't know what you're talking about.
 
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