Democrats only: Are there lessons to be learned for team Harris?

[Watchmen]

I see after taking a drumming the elitist left here at RF is still unwilling to take a step back, admit they were wrong, and have a rationale discussion to do better.

 

[danieldemol]

You are under the impression that being loathworthy makes one have less votes, but as I see it that is from true. Trump election numbers keep going up every election cycle. This can only mean the average republican feels properly represented by him.

I think that @Quintessence nailed it. The Democratic party simply wasn't able to get their own supporters to vote. So, I don't think the borders had anything to do with it.

Ok, perhaps the democratic party needs to try survey its supporters who didn't vote as to why if possible.

 

[Koldo]

Ok, perhaps the democratic party needs to try survey its supporters who didn't vote as to why if possible.

Indeed. I think that would provide the most reliable answer.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I think Democrats need to step a bit left of the (American) center line. Go full progressive.

 

[sayak83]

Personally because 3 democratic governers warned Biden that the southern border was an issue I believe Harris could have had a bit more political savvy and urged Biden to clamp down on the southern border sooner. I believe that even if the US needs migration sometimes in politics you have to not be too much of a moral crusader and have more of a willingness to listen to the public's concerns even if they are unfounded.

Considering the loathworthy opponent Harris had I personally feel this shouldn't have been such a close race in my view.

Thoughts?

No. The resurgence of far right is a common phenomenon sweeping the Europe and US and much of the Western world as fear of migration and demographic pressures from shrinking population takes hold. There is no comparison between the quality of the two candidates. But the far right religio-nativist message coming from a strongman is now more popular.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Personally because 3 democratic governers warned Biden that the southern border was an issue I believe Harris could have had a bit more political savvy and urged Biden to clamp down on the southern border sooner. I believe that even if the US needs migration sometimes in politics you have to not be too much of a moral crusader and have more of a willingness to listen to the public's concerns even if they are unfounded.

Considering the loathworthy opponent Harris had I personally feel this shouldn't have been such a close race in my view.

Thoughts?

There are lessons to be learned by everything real. The trick is, we have to be willing to learn them.

 

[F1fan]

What have democrats learned? That many voters need to allow America to hit bottom before they take politics seriously.

There is no candidate that would have succeded against Trump given his popularity. The messaging from Harris did not get heard by most of those who voted for Trump. For some reason they believe Trump will make their lives better, yet with no plan from Trump in how that would happen. I predict many of these voters will become dissatisfied as Trump ignores the problems they want his to fix. The rich will get tax cuts. Musk has already said he intends to cut social programs, meaning there will be severe austerity. And with the ACA likely to be repealed there will be a deeper healthcare crisis, and no alternative. Trump had a terrible plan in 2017, and it failed. He didn't bother creating a new alternative in his last three years. He doesn't care.

I suspect by 2016 the dissatisfaction with Trump will mirror his 2020 ratings, perhaps worse if the project 2025 plans create chaos, and the tariffs cause inflation. Some economists predict a severe recession if Trump implements his economic ideas. Who would he have to blame?