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Democrats say the damnedest things.....

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Alternet certainly shows bias from time to time, but nothing compared to right-wing rabble inflaming garbage like FOX.
From what I've seen of both, even Fox has the upper hand in objectivity compared to Alternet,
which isn't really news...just shrill & sloppy anti-conservative & anti-libertarian advocacy.

I defy you to cite even one scientific study that suggests sources like Alternet dumb down their audience. Last I knew, there were five to seven such studies suggesting that FOX viewers are more poorly informed about events than viewers of other channels, including MSNBC.
You may present whatever studies you wish, but I see what I see watching both sides. Moreover,
I've seen many "scientific" studies which are also quite agenda laden, so I'm skeptical of mere
claims that science is on your side. But feel free to make a correlation between being "poorly
informed" & degree of bias.

By the way, your worries that liberals are blind to the biases of various liberal-leaning outlets seems to me like a failed attempt to shift attention away from the generally much greater bias of outlets like FOX. Nice try, though. If I had nothing of substance with which to defend the FOX, Limbaugh, Breitbart, etc. Axis, even I might stoop to childishly shifting blame.
Tis nothing to get miffed about.
But least you didn't include Drudge in your list this time. This is progress.
Some always think the bias is on the other side, while their own has THE TRUTH.
 
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freethinker44

Well-Known Member
You could hire a conservative website builder and get a great liberal site.

Really though, who does this? Would you hire a contractor to build a house for you if you knew or suspected that he hated you and would love for nothing more than to see your house go up in a fiery blaze and take you down with it? That's basically what you're saying he should have done.

I'm not even going to lie, if Romney won the presidency and hired me to build a website for Ryan's terrible medicare plan, that website would never work properly, if at all, as long as I was a part of building it. I would sabotage it at every opportunity. And I'm not even a hardcore liberal, just slightly left of center.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Really though, who does this? Would you hire a contractor to build a house for you if you knew or suspected that he hated you and would love for nothing more than to see your house go up in a fiery blaze and take you down with it? That's basically what you're saying he should have done.

I'm not even going to lie, if Romney won the presidency and hired me to build a website for Ryan's terrible medicare plan, that website would never work properly, if at all, as long as I was a part of building it. I would sabotage it at every opportunity. And I'm not even a hardcore liberal, just slightly left of center.
Not everyone lets differences of opinion blossom into hatred & sabotage/fraud.
I've managed property for owners whose values differed from mine, eg, a Baptist Church,
& it never occurred to me to do anything other than what was in their best interest.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
Not everyone lets differences of opinion blossom into hatred & sabotage/fraud.
I've managed property for owners whose values differed from mine, eg, a Baptist Church,
& it never occurred to me to do anything other than what was in their best interest.

Would you rent to someone if you knew they belonged to a group whose goal was to destroy your rental business?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Would you rent to someone if you knew they belonged to a group whose goal was to destroy your rental business?
That depends on what you mean.....
1) Do they engage in political advocacy? I'd rent to them.
2) Do they plan to violate the lease or do me harm? I'd turn'm away.

A great many of my tenants over the years worked against my interests.
But business is business. If they treat me honorably, then I rent to them.
 

freethinker44

Well-Known Member
That depends on what you mean.....
1) Do they engage in political advocacy? I'd rent to them.
2) Do they plan to violate the lease or do me harm? I'd turn'm away.

A great many of my tenants over the years worked against my interests.
But business is business. If they treat me honorably, then I rent to them.

That was a bad analogy. Would you hire someone to maintain your properties if you knew they actively wanted your business to fail?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That was a bad analogy. Would you hire someone to maintain your properties if you knew they actively wanted your business to fail?
No. To hire an employee is more critical than to lease to a tenant or even hire a contractor.
This is because of an employee's access to sensitive thingies, eg, security info, computer systems, files.
Also, the legal environment would allow a saboteur to commit legally devastating acts under color of
authority, eg, fair housing violations
 
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Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Not everyone is so engulfed in their own political opinions that they wish harm to anyone who is not of the same opinion. For example I am considered a liberal. I do work in the accounting field for several different clients that are openly republican. In fact I had a few give me Romney/Ryan stickers. They are genuinly nice people. I don't agree with them but I still wouldn't give them any less than my best professionally.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Not everyone is so engulfed in their own political opinions that they wish harm to anyone who is not of the same opinion. For example I am considered a liberal. I do work in the accounting field for several different clients that are openly republican. In fact I had a few give me Romney/Ryan stickers. They are genuinly nice people. I don't agree with them but I still wouldn't give them any less than my best professionally.

This!
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Not everyone is so engulfed in their own political opinions that they wish harm to anyone who is not of the same opinion. For example I am considered a liberal. I do work in the accounting field for several different clients that are openly republican. In fact I had a few give me Romney/Ryan stickers. They are genuinly nice people. I don't agree with them but I still wouldn't give them any less than my best professionally.

Yup...
I've done more than a little work for religious-based organisations, working in business systems. I can honestly say it has zero impact on the service I provide. Professionalism is something I pride myself on.
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
MSNBC host apologizes after panel makes fun of Romney photo with black grandchild – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

An MSNBC host apologized Tuesday morning after she and panelists on her weekend program faced criticism after poking fun at a photo of Mitt Romney, his wife and their nearly two dozen grandchildren, zeroing in on the Romneys' recently adopted African-American grandchild, Kieran.
Just imagine the outcry if Fox had poked fun of a Democrat's adopted African-American grandchild. ;)
 
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hexler

Member
It is obvious that there is one thing, which combines all politicians together: THE LIE !
Why? Because if a politician finds out that the opposing party is right in a certain question he does not give in and say: My party is wrong and the other party is right!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
MSNBC host apologizes after panel makes fun of Romney photo with black grandchild – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Just imagine the outcry if Fox had poked fun of a Democrat's adopted African-American grandchild. ;)

There's an apology, is there not? And the likes of O'Reilly and Hannity are still at Fox after some of their rather "questionable" remarks, are they not? And Limbaugh still attracts millions after making many very obvious racist remarks, is he not?

I guess it all boils down to whose ox is being gored.
 
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