I've always enjoyed that Gandhi quote, but I hadn't seen the other one. Thanks for sharing.
If only some people could see themselves looking from the outside.
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Demons, is there any evidence they even exist?
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If only some people could see themselves looking from the outside.
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Trailblazer
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That's true. Many, many years ago I was on drugs that nearly killed me and I was so glad to get off them.
Almost as though spirituality does not have to be at odds with science! Gasp! Don't tell the kids!
It's well known even among conservative Bible scholars that this passage is not original to Mark's Gospel. But I digress.
Sgt. Pepper
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When I was being treated by therapists for PTSD and trauma, I chose not to take medication for personal reasons, but I don't and would never begrudge anyone else who chose to take medication to help them cope with whatever they were dealing with at the time. I understand that it is not my place to judge and tell another adult what they should or should not do for their own healthcare, whether it is mental or physical. I never suggest to my husband or adult children that they stop taking their medications or not take any in the first place. When my children were young, my husband and I would consult the doctor whom we had come to trust with the medical care of our children. My husband, the doctor, and I would discuss possible medicines, and the doctor would explain the medicine and any side effects. Then, my husband and I could make an informed choice about the medicine prescribed to our children.
Trailblazer
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I agree. People have to do what they feel is right for themselves in order to cope and sometimes they need drugs. I was only describing my personal experience with drugs which was not good, and I had to take homeopathic remedies in order to get off antidepressants.
Most people are not going for homeopathy and many people think it is not real medicine which is why I did not want to mention it, but just like you know that your paranormal experiences are real, I know my experiences with homeopathy for 10 years was real, not a placebo effect.
Truthseeker
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I didn't get "hooked" but I was taken off Haldol for anger, and there was a reaction that gave me Tardive Dyskinesia. Tardive dyskinesia (TD) is a movement disorder characterized by uncontrollable, abnormal, and repetitive movements of the face, torso, and/or other body parts..
Fortunately there was drug to counteract that, though after a period of hell. For a time I had a lot of trouble walking, and couldn't eat because my jaws chattered uncontrollably when I tried to chew.
ElishaElijah
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I do pray in the Spirit, or tongues and with understanding.
“Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say?”
I Corinthians 14:13-16 NKJV
“praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—”
Ephesians 6:18 NKJV
ElishaElijah
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Seems some passive aggressive demons manifesting in people on here tonight IMO, Come out in Jesus Name!
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I never referred to stubbed toes or paper cuts. Headaches, drug addiction, schizophrenia, anger issues and suicidal thoughts are all caused by brain defects so it is logical to lump them in together. Also you claimed to have a "spiritual approach" to determining whether an illness was demons or not, so what is this spiritual approach and how does it rule out headaches and other brain defects as being caused or not caused by demons?
It wouldn't make sense for me to renounce occult practices because I dont have any, nor have you demonstrated any link between occult practices and any of the mental illness you mentioned as I see it.
What on earth is a "generational curse"? Is it something your preachers made up?
In my opinion.
nPeace
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Many people testify to this fact.
From some people that call themselves Christian, I get the strong sense that they are thrilled with misery and unhappiness in others. It justifies their feelings of superiority that isn't very spiritual. I wonder if that could be a manifestation of a demon. I guess I'll never know, since no one will tell us what the defining characters and criteria are for knowing they exist or are in action.
Maybe demon is just a metaphor for the crap behavior people dump on each other lording their piety.
Many, many people can also attest to how their medication helps them and keeps their families together in love and growth.
My father was a Marine and suffered head trauma in combat. The end result was that he developed bipolar disorder. I was a baby at the time, but one story I was told later in life was that he woke the whole family up in the middle of one night and put everyone on guard duty around the house, because the Chinese were massing for attack. My mother got him to doctors. He followed their advice. Regularly took his medication and the man I grew up with was a kind and loving father with no indication of problems like that. The man that suffered hallucinations and PTSD was just stories I was told when I was older.
No demons. Just head injury and disease. The medication and treatment were the answer to prayers. Not some witch crafty fringe interpretation of Christianity over fear of things that go bump in the night so we could all feel good about ourselves by chastising a sick man.
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ElishaElijah
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And you know this how? Because people don't buy into a specific interpretation? That is interesting and perhaps useful information.
Ah Youtube. The oracle.
If you all spent as much time actually helping people as you do cutting them up for not being as superior spiritually as you are, then perhaps that might be the best way to spread the love of Christ.
ElishaElijah
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How to Identify the Enemy | Sermon | Derek Prince Ministries
Watch How to Identify the Enemy, a powerful full-length sermon by Derek Prince, revealing Bible-based truth and wisdom for Christians everywhere.
www.derekprince.com
Derek Prince is another person with teaching on the subject of demons for anyone interested.
ElishaElijah
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How am I “cutting people up”? Who ever said I was superior? Jesus is the one who is awesome.
I was one of the worst who received mercy and was healed, nothing good in me except His Spirit.
I do help people and the only reason I’m on this thread is so anyone who wants to can know who and how I was delivered. Can seek out Jesus Christ for themselves and also know people are still being delivered from demons today “In the Name of Jesus”. Not my name or by any of my own strength or wisdom but it all comes from The Lord Jesus Christ as the Bible says and that’s my view.