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DeSantis Would Be Bad News As Prez

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Appeals courts can order new trials with new judges.
You sure are grasping at straws to avoid the massive
corruption in Italy.
May I know how it happened that a criminal like OJ Simpson was acquitted?
Evidently the system is flawed.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
May I know how it happened that a criminal like OJ Simpson was acquitted?
Evidently the system is flawed.
All systems are flawed.
But OJ's not guilty verdict could be seen as success.
Even though he likely murdered them, he must be
found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt for conviction.


In Italy, it's more like this....
Chief Wiggum:
"I'd rather let a thousand guilty men go free than chase after them."

Note to @Shadow Wolf....
If you posted that quote, instead of attributing it to Chief
Wiggum, you'd have to find out which of the many unknown
writers of that episode wrote that line, & name them, which
would make the quote apocryphal.
This proves the cromulence of my approach, ie, name the
one who uttered the line .
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
All systems are flawed.
But OJ's not guilty verdict could be seen as success.
Even though he likely murdered them, he must be
found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt for conviction.

Our system is very flawed, as well. Just think that a criminal trial can last up to 10 years, and I am not kidding. I can provide with well-known examples. Besides, the unbearable slowness of trials is accompanied by an invisible, insurmountable wall called bureaucracy.


As for the OJ Simpson's case, if that had happened here, the case would have lasted something like seven years, but in the end, he would have been behind bars: life sentence.
For example...here the attempted escape is seen as a confession. And besides, there are clues: matching, severe, and precise. The blood, the motive, the gloves.
What the nightmare team presented was the fair of banalities.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Sounds rather fascist to me.
Many innocent people flee the cops....for good reason.

Here there is no such a thing as "induced confession".
If someone confesses to a crime, they cannot take that back. The confession makes them guilty.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
May I know how it happened that a criminal like OJ Simpson was acquitted?
Evidently the system is flawed.

The official reason is that 12 people decided it that way. But since that time, many others have weighed in on it and tried to evaluate what went wrong.

Some might say it was the jury's way of saying "screw you" to the system. I can only imagine, if I was on that jury, I'd probably be a bit miffed at having to give up months of my life to sit through that ****show.

Other possible factors:

- He was a football hero, and Americans love their football heroes. OJ was also a charismatic, likeable celebrity and actor. Nobody wanted to believe that he could commit murder.
- Some people cheered the verdict, as they might have seen it as a victory against a racist system where, ordinarily, a black man of much lesser means would have gotten railroaded. Whether he was guilty or not was beside the point. That he most likely was guilty is an even bigger black mark against the system, as it would demonstrate that, with enough money and high-priced attorneys, one can buy one's innocence in court.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Okay, just real quick.
What did this Soros fellow do exactly?
I’ve heard everyone bash him and zoomers meme on him (in fairness, usually in a positive light.)
But no one’s given me any specifics

Is he supposed to be some sort of world government thingy?
Just a meme?
Satan?
Like :shrug:
I also don't know that Soros guy but if DeSantis is the anti-Soros, I like that Soros guy.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That he most likely was guilty is an even bigger black mark against the system, as it would demonstrate that, with enough money and high-priced attorneys, one can buy one's innocence in court.
All that these spendy lawyers can do is investigate & litigate.
Money enables that, but it's still illegal to bribe judges & jurors.
Unless that happened, OJ didn't buy his not guilty verdict.
(We don't have <innocent> in our system.)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
They do all the things that public defenders should be doing but usually don't.
Public defenders typically have limited time & resources.
And many are aligned with the local justice system, ie,
cops & judges. They'll often coerce defendants into
pleading guilty rather than going to trial.
I've heard this from defense attorneys. One must be
cautious about taking advice from a lawyer who works
for the very same government prosecuting'm.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Public defenders typically have limited time & resources.
And many are aligned with the local justice system, ie,
cops & judges. They'll often coerce defendants into
pleading guilty rather than going to trial.
I've heard this from defense attorneys. One must be
cautious about taking advice from a lawyer who works
for the very same government prosecuting'm.

Well, then, I guess that proves my point about it being a black mark against the system.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Surely.
He will applaud him for destroying economies.

You're making Soros look better & better....
- Anti-Putin
- Prosecuting Trump for crimes
- Anti-DeSantis

BTW, at least one bank, RBC, destroyed itself without any
help from Soros. Then when the Brit government took
majority ownership, it really went to ****. I had the
misfortune of dealing with them. You haven't.
 
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