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#DiagnoseTrump

Acim

Revelation all the time
The use of nuclear weapons by the US is not a partisan issue. It is an American issue. So questioning Trumps ability to handle that decision is not being a sore loser. looking at all the things he's said and done- its not an unjustified question.

Depends on the form the questioning takes. If it is something new and unique to this particular president, and it is coming only from Dems, then a) that is partisan and b) that is arguably unfair. If it's just mere questions, then that would be no different than all past POTUS that I'm aware of, as every election has people (on the other side of the aisle) that question that person's abilities.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah. But you still have to try. The fact not everyone comes to support your ideals or a cause is not the best reason for giving up.
See link. The number of signatories on the petition is now 34,010.
#DiagnoseTrump
Who says I'm giving up on anything?
But a bunch'o shrinks who want to test Trump is just another loser's tantrum.
Do they even want to....or is this the fantasy of the linked screed's author....a Democrat who isn't a shrink.
She should get over the loss, & find productive things to do.

On 2nd thought, she might do less damage pursuing this course.
 
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Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
We didn't learn back in 2000 either. I'm not hopeful 2020 will be much different. 2024, maybe, when Millennials are expected to become the majority voting block, but for 2020 the Democrats are too busy doing exactly what needs to be done for them to loose 2018 midterms and the 2020 election.
Really, they need to themselves get foaming at the mouth pissed off, much like the Republicans did with the Tea Party and with Trump. Democrats and Liberals don't need to cry and whine, they need to yell and roar. The party itself must carefully plan the next four years to turn this into a monumental win, but they are too eager to just accept defeat and not look into how a catastrophe can be opportunity.

9/11 was a very confusing time. Bush Jr. Has record popularity through te early part of his administration, and many has not yet seen the true coats of our intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq. The constant drumbeat of war and Al-Qaeda's threat was a challenge, and too many politicians who should have known better bowed under the political pressure. . . The American people wanted war.

In 2004, instead of fighting this policy, we chose John Kerry because he was a Vietnam vet, another incorrect centrist choice who was not inspiring. Plus, his war record was smeared, and Fox News finally became a real force. Murdoch stopped screwing around and finally became the propaganda arm of the Republican Party. . . as it still is today.

We didn't know how to deal with all of this then, like we struggle today to deal with foreign hacking and fake news (as was demonstrated by me earlier in this very thread).

But yes, you're right. This is an opportunity, but we have to be honest and cool-headed. Admitting that we lost the election is not admiring defeat at all.

The battle goes on, as long as many decent people as possible stay engaged. Some of those decent people are conservatives, and some are liberals.

Luckily, more are actually liberals, which is an advantage that we can't forget. It's something the DNC forgot too, because the real majority in this country was only pandered to in this election. The next candidate needs to energize and most of all. . . be a true liberal.

If we learn that lesson, we'll never lose again.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Yeah. But you still have to try. The fact not everyone comes to support your ideals or a cause is not the best reason for giving up.



See link. The number of signatories on the petition is now 34,010.

#DiagnoseTrump
I am not giving up. In fact, this election has spurred more vigor in me to be more active. But action for the sake of action is worse than useless. That is how I see this particular campaign against the Trumper.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Only read the first page as this topic is quickly devolving.

Lets wait until after we're done celebrating an imaginary fat guy, who delivers toys all over the world, in a sleigh pulled by flying deer.

I'd like people to stop celebrating the zombie guy who's birthday we are celebrating on that same day even though he wasn't even born in December, assuming he really existed.

(Yes I'm really anti-Christmas, too many people argue about what it is and isn't about even though it was stolen from pagans basically and yet the whole thing is so contrived and too cheery and too many people kill themselves around Christmas).

Why don't you Trump haters lay on the ground kicking and screaming, and have a temper tantrum. O sorry, that is what you are doing.

The ones who need a psychologist and a psycharists are those who cried because they didn't get their way. The need to grow up and smell the pizza.

The are in for a rude awaking when they get out of the lala land of liberal institutions or unlearning, and have to make it in the real world.

Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades; they'll give you as many chances as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life---Bill Gates

Pretty sure that quote is fake and by the way, if people are gonna "wake up and smell the pizza" then they would realize how much Trump fooled them into voting for him.

As a side note, on "waking up and smelling the pizza" still... I wanted to make a pizza joke related to my avatar but couldn't bring myself to pepper this topic with something as saucy as Satan. While flippant, I also felt such a remark would come off as cheesy.

This is an example how false rumors and anti-intellectualism spreads via the internet.

Bill Gates never said this quote. It's from a 1995 book by a conservative talk show host names Charles Sykes, who, ironically, hates Trump and believe the conservative movement lost its way by electing him.

I will say that you have provided a clear example of how Trump got elected. People just don't care about the reality outside their internet bubble, and will believe anything as long as it fits your warped narrative.

Ha! Guess the quote was fake after all! Huzzah! Have some frubals!
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Only read the first page as this topic is quickly devolving.
If you have some time, keep reading. This thread isn't that bad and I think there have been some good back n'forths.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you have some time, keep reading. This thread isn't that bad and I think there have been some good back n'forths.

Why are you not replying to my pizza/avatar joke instead? That's probably going to be my proudest accomplishment today.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
As a side note, on "waking up and smelling the pizza" still... I wanted to make a pizza joke related to my avatar but couldn't bring myself to pepper this topic with something as saucy as Satan. While flippant, I also felt such a remark would come off as cheesy.
:facepalm: I love puns but... COMON MAN! :D
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Should Trump be subject to a psychatric evaluation before taking office? At the moment 34,000 psychologists and psychatrists agree.

#DiagnoseTrump

Do you think this is necessary?
I have hypothesized NPD for several months now in regards to Trump as he displays the characteristics.

BTW, it is interesting to hear the take on Trump from the two men who co-wrote Trump's books with him, and they also think he has some rather serious issues.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
The are in for a rude awaking when they get out of the lala land of liberal institutions or unlearning, and have to make it in the real world.
What does that even mean? You took the propaganda. Leave it to republicans do demonize the education system.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
Condescension does nothing to further the discussion and only alienates you argument further from serious consideration.

When adults act like children maybe the need some condescension. When Obama won the second time, the conservative didn't act like little cry babies. Get real, nothing I say will be taken seriously by those whiners. Their professors aren't doing them any favors by becoming their enablers. They remind me of the kid with the only baseball and he wouldn't play unless he could pitch..
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
This is an example how false rumors and anti-intellectualism spreads via the internet.

I didn't get it from the internet. I have one page of what is presented as his quotes. I have it so long I don't know where I got it,

Bill Gates never said this quote. It's from a 1995 book by a conservative talk show host names Charles Sykes, who, ironically, hates Trump and believe the conservative movement lost its way by electing him.

T:rump may not be a true conservative, but he far more conservative thatn Hillary. That is all that mattered to me.

I will say that you have provided a clear example of how Trump got elected. People just don't care about the reality outside their internet bubble, and will believe anything as long as it fits your warped narrative.

Thanks for you condescending remarks. You liberals want to blame it on any thing but the truth. Hillary lost for one main reason. Trump was more in touch with the common man, than Hillary was. She had already picked out her crown for her corination and now she finds it was to small.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
What does that even mean? You took the propaganda. Leave it to republicans do demonize the education system.

If you don't understand it, maybe it is because you are a product of our failed public education system. Leave it to the liberals defend and obvious failed system. Can you explain why America was once rated #1 in education and now we are about 14th and falling like a stone. For over 20 years the public non-education system has said ,we can fix the problem with more money. Every year they were give more money and every year the system got worse.

The college professors who said the cry babies did not have to attend class if they were too disturbed, should be fired. O I forgot our system does not allow us to fire incompetent teachers. Do you really think that type of ignorance really prepares those students for life in the real world?

Is tenure really a good thing? You don't get it in other professions. why only in one of our most important professions?
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Should Trump be subject to a psychatric evaluation before taking office? At the moment 34,000 psychologists and psychatrists agree.

#DiagnoseTrump

Do you think this is necessary?

Certainly it would be fascinating to know what makes him tick, for a guy to be so successful already, and then getting himself elected leader of the free world, literally by his own independent energy- against such a vast, powerful and corrupt political machine...which long after he won the election is still trying to derail the democratic process by any means.. (and all at age 70! - I don't have his energy at almost half his age)

It's hard to imagine a greater possible win for the core principles of democracy.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What does that even mean? You took the propaganda. Leave it to republicans do demonize the education system.
Well, higher education is one of the best means of dissolving Conservative ideology and for getting non-minority white middle class Amerians to not vote Republican.
 
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