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Did God say that?! I Rape in the bible

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
It isn't just an opinion,it's fact bible is wrong(we prove it),really no one believes in what it says,so while being 100% accurate i say bible is incorrect.
About the Quran,why don't see it as completely accurate.(maybe you will want to reply in the quranic forum).
Again, in what capacity? No one's disagreeing that it is inaccurate in some of its historical data. That's what you're basing your diatribe on?
Just because part of its historical data is wrong is no reason to think that we don't "believe in what it says." It says exactly what it was designed to say, if you just knew how to read it properly.

So, go ahead: In what way is the Bible "incorrect?"
And be sure to use proper exegesis when you make your claims, backing them up with references, if necessary.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Let me remind you that you said


And that is thing, i am sure of.
Apparently, it doesn't matter what I think. But it does matter what you think. You just said that the Bible is the Word of God. So, you must be a believer. Again, welcome to the fold, brother!
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Apparently, it doesn't matter what I think. But it does matter what you think. You just said that the Bible is the Word of God. So, you must be a believer. Again, welcome to the fold, brother!
I didn't, every body could say it,so such statments will not help you.
you said:


God does not lie. The Bible is not "God's own words." Therefore, ........
And that is a thing(what you said bible isn't god's word), i am sure of.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I didn't, every body could say it,so such statments will not help you.
you said:



And that is a thing(what you said bible isn't god's word), i am sure of.
Look at your post #175. I said that I didn't believe that the Bible was God's actual word. Your response was, "Sure, Sojourner, sure." That constitutes a rebuttal to my position.

If my position is that the Bible is not the literal words of God, then your rebuttal must be that it, in fact, is. So, once again, welcome to the fold.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Again, in what capacity? No one's disagreeing that it is inaccurate in some of its historical data. That's what you're basing your diatribe on?
Just because part of its historical data is wrong is no reason to think that we don't "believe in what it says." It says exactly what it was designed to say, if you just knew how to read it properly.

So, go ahead: In what way is the Bible "incorrect?"
And be sure to use proper exegesis when you make your claims, backing them up with references, if necessary.
**bump**

I'm still waiting for your answer, Zhakir.
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Look at your post #175. I said that I didn't believe that the Bible was God's actual word. Your response was, "Sure, Sojourner, sure." That constitutes a rebuttal to my position.

If my position is that the Bible is not the literal words of God, then your rebuttal must be that it, in fact, is. So, once again, welcome to the fold.
What ever you say neither i do believe in your bible nor you.
 

challupa

Well-Known Member
It isn't just an opinion,it's fact bible is wrong(we prove it),really no one believes in what it says,so while being 100% accurate i say bible is incorrect.
About the Quran,why don't see it as completely accurate.(maybe you will want to reply in the quranic forum).
I'm sorry but you will never convince me that the Quran has any more accuracy than the Bible. Neither is 100%. Don't get me wrong, there is some good in each, but also plenty of not so good.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
What ever you say neither i do believe in your bible nor you.
Oh, no you don't! You don't get off that easy. I never once said that I don't believe in the Bible. I said that I don't believe that it's literally God's words.

BTW, you still haven't answered my very important question. Sure would like an answer to that.
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Again, in what capacity? No one's disagreeing that it is inaccurate in some of its historical data. That's what you're basing your diatribe on?
Just because part of its historical data is wrong is no reason to think that we don't "believe in what it says." It says exactly what it was designed to say, if you just knew how to read it properly.

So, go ahead: In what way is the Bible "incorrect?"
And be sure to use proper exegesis when you make your claims, backing them up with references, if necessary.

Ok i'll tell, you maybe want to be the first one to reply to this thread ,which all christisans in the forum are trying to ignore.
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/christianity/79695-there-christian-believers.html
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Thank you,but you might be conserned about the image that the hindu scriptures give to islam.

YouTube - Prophet MUHAMMAD in Hindu Scriptures
Thus, Muhammed is mentioned, as Mahāmada, in III.3.3.5-27. The passage portrays him as a dharmadūṣaka ("polluter of righteousness"), a preceptor of paiśācadharma ("ghoulish religion"), and a reincarnation of Tripurāsura, a demon whom Lord Shiva will destroy again.

Bhavishya Purana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The puranas are changed, especially this one. Bhavishya means life in my language. Mughals have invaded India, and one of their tactics was to change scriptures to convert die hard Hindus. Not to mention killing and raping and forceful conversion. Oh yeah, don't forget knocking down beautiful Hindu mandirs.

It's funny, if they break down a Mandir, nothing happens, someone makes some cartoons of Muhammed and we should all die.

Hinduism is a beautiful religion and would not give Muhammed a positive look... Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world... It's just not right...
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Oh, I see. you're referring to the worthless thread you began that says
The theread's aim is to discuss that there is not a single human being now who believes in the bible and there are no "true christians believers" now ,and there have never been at all times.
This is your exegetical proof???
Come on, Zhak! You're better than this pitiful thing, aren't you?
No matter. Let's discuss this point-by point (which will be difficult, because your argument is extremely convoluted)
1) No single human being now who believes in the Bible
I suppose you'd have to clarify what you mean by "believes" before you could posit this. No matter. I believe in the Bible. I'm a human being now. #1 shot down.
2) there are no "true Christan believers" now
Once again, you'd have to clarify what you mean by "true believers." Again, no matter. I consider myself to believe in the manner of a true Christian. # 2 shot down
3) Never have been
Too easy. I'm here, aren't I? #3 shot down

Your exegesis ... isn't. These are merely baseless, inflammatory statements that prove absolutely nothing.
What else ya got, hot shot?
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Oh, no you don't! You don't get off that easy. I never once said that I don't believe in the Bible. I said that I don't believe that it's literally God's words.
Really....


I don't believe Jesus said some of them, either.


Really?...



Quote:
I believe in the Bible, but I believe in it for what it is, not for what you wish it was. It is God's Word
Really?...




Quote:
God does not lie. The Bible is not "God's own words." Therefore, the contradictions have absolutely no bearing on your argument.
Really?....
:biglaugh:
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You don't know
**How to get off,will you please stop contradicting your self
(reminds me of the bible writeres :shrug:)
 

Zhakir

Peace&Tolerance
Thus, Muhammed is mentioned, as Mahāmada, in III.3.3.5-27. The passage portrays him as a dharmadūṣaka ("polluter of righteousness"), a preceptor of paiśācadharma ("ghoulish religion"), and a reincarnation of Tripurāsura, a demon whom Lord Shiva will destroy again.

Bhavishya Purana - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The puranas are changed, especially this one. Bhavishya means life in my language. Mughals have invaded India, and one of their tactics was to change scriptures to convert die hard Hindus. Not to mention killing and raping and forceful conversion. Oh yeah, don't forget knocking down beautiful Hindu mandirs.

It's funny, if they break down a Mandir, nothing happens, someone makes some cartoons of Muhammed and we should all die.

Hinduism is a beautiful religion and would not give Muhammed a positive look... Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world... It's just not right...
I'd be glad to talk to you if you only reply to one verse
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
So i should prove it's right ok,let's start with
Quran Miracles - Miracles of the Qur'an

by the you didn't prove any thing

Taking something that science has discovered and then going back and saying "Looky looky that's in are Holy book, that's means it's from god" proves nothing.

Thank you,but you might be conserned about the image that the hindu scriptures give to islam.

YouTube - Prophet MUHAMMAD in Hindu Scriptures

Wow even more lies and misinterpretations of someone else Holy texts. By posting this you show that you and the mam speaking really don't understand the Vedas.
 
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