Large percentage of Muslims believe that punishing the raped woman is Islam?
PROOF? What's this percentage? And where are those Muslims? Where is the source? It seems that you made some studies and polls and based on them you reached this conclusion? I am sure you don't want to be viewed as someone who speaks rubbish, right?
A large percentage of Muslims happily follow some form of Sharia.
Sharia punishes the rape victim almost every time.
It`s inherently misogynistic.
This has been well documented here and many other threads by myself and many other posters.
Every Muslim in the world punish the raped woman? Um, I live in a Muslim nation, can you give me a source for the Egyptian cases where raped women were punished because they were raped? I am all ears...
That`s good because here we go.
Egypt is predominantly a traditional society, where women are usually stereotyped as sex objects. That ideology influences the legal system, so that even law reform is not enough to ensure justice. This paper will primarily discuss rape laws in Egypt in that respect. Up until 1999, rape offenders were offered freedom if they married their victims.
Mohamed, Reem. "Rape and Gender Ideology in Egypt"Abstract
Rape victims were to marry their rapists.
That`s nice, I bet that makes for some warm loving conversations around the breakfast table.
Not to mention the beautiful family heritage that will be taught to the children.
"Mom, how did you and dad meet?"
"Well darling, your father went on a rampage because A movie he and his friends wanted to see sold out so he was among many young men running around breaking things and raping women in the square."
"We were lucky enough to be able to convince a judge that I was raped by your father so we got married to keep dad out of prison and me from being the victim of an honor killing as your grandfather would surely have slit my throat for bringing our family such dishonor."
"It was the most wonderful day of my life, the day your father raped me, I`ll never forget it."
"That sounds so wonderful ma!"
"I hope you`re as lucky as I when you`re raped by your future husband darling."
This law was abolished in 1999(ten years ago).
It seems Islamic countries have a hard time keeping up with the rest of the world.
Egypt drops rape law called failure
oh and you still have the other Muslim countries let me see:
I`m on it.
It is perfectly legal to rape your wife in Jordan.
In fact the way the law is designed it`s not possible to rape your wife as she is your property.
This goes for ex-wives as well.
Women of Jordan
Libya
Human Rights Watch is particularly concerned that the criminalization of extramarital sexual relations in Libya also would severely impede the ability of rape victims to seek justice.
[28] A court may view a woman's charge of rape as an admission of illegal sex unless she can prove (by strict evidentiary standards) that the intercourse was non-consensual and therefore not fornication or adultery.
Libya:A Threat to Society?
Might the above "strict evidentiary standards" be those 4 male Muslim witnesses I mentioned earlier?
I`m unsure.
So, in Libya a raped woman cannot go to the authorities without meeting "strict evidentiary standards" or she risks being prosecuted herself under the Zina laws.
Syria
In speaking with the police, Zahras brother used a colloquial expression, ghasalat al arr (washing away the shame), which means the killing of a woman or girl whose very life has come to be seen as an unbearable stain on the honor of her male relatives. Once this kind of familial sexual shame has been washed, the killing is traditionally forgotten as quickly as possible. Under Syrian law, an honor killing is not murder, and the man who commits it is not a murderer. As in many other Arab countries, even if the killer is convicted on the lesser charge of a crime of honor, he is usually set free within months. Mentioning the killing or even the name of the victim generally becomes taboo.
Dhimmi Watch: "Under Syrian law, an honor killing is not murder..."
Apparently in Syria it`s legal or the equivalent of a misdemeanor to kill a female family member because she was raped.
That`s nice.
Kuwait
Human Rights Watch said that Kuwaiti women face severe discrimination in both public and private life. Under Kuwaiti penal law, men who kill female relatives in so-called "honor crimes" serve a maximum three-year sentence and are not prosecuted for murder. Women are banned from voting and standing for election, cannot contract their own marriage or divorce without the agreement of a male guardian or judge, and are barred in practice from many public positions, including serving as judges. The National Assembly voted against women's suffrage in November 1999, and is expected to vote on new legislation, including legislation granting women the right to vote but not stand for election, in the new session.
Kuwait: New Report Charges Serious Discrimination | Human Rights Watch
Apparently killing your sister for being raped in Kuwait gets you about three years as well.
Bahrain
(Foreign domestic workers in Bahrain arrested for being raped.)
Why is it that it's always the maid who is arrested immediately (for what crime I do not know), but the authorities are so casual when dealing with the employers/sponsors accused of rape and abuse?
Chan'ad Bahraini: Officer, arrest that rape victim!
A MAID who claims she was raped three times in 48 hours by two members of the same family was released yesterday after spending Saturday night in police custody. She was handed over to members of the Migrant Workers Group (MWG) after being taken for medical tests in the morning.
However, an officer at Budaiya Police Station refused to say whether the men had been arrested or released. Sources say they were taken in for questioning at about 7pm on Saturday and were kept there at least until 3am yesterday....
Sources described the family as being influential and said a member of the Public Prosecution was called to the police station on Saturday night.
"That is the first time we have heard of that happening," sources told the GDN.
"He spoke to her and the other people. Their whole extended family went there - including a relative who is a lawyer.
"As far as we know they were not detained, but she was."
Dhimmi Watch: Bahrain: Rape claim woman freed from custody
Interesting quote I found about Pakistan at the above link.
3 out of 4 women in Pakistani prisons are rape victims who couldn`t meet the Hudud evidentiary requirement of 4 male witnesses.
In Pakistan, it is reported that three out of four women in prison under its Hudud laws [these are the laws of what it forbidden and permitted by Allah himself], are rape victims. Because rape is equated with zina [unlawful sexual intercourse] under Hudud law, rape victims are required to produce four pious male witnesses. It is of course nearly impossible for the rape victims to produce the four male witnesses required to prove their allegation. Therefore their police report of rape was taken as a confession of illicit sex on their part and they were duly found guilty.
Dhimmi Watch: Bahrain: Rape claim woman freed from custody
Should I?
I can you know.
What would you like me to cover next?
Pakistan
Afganistan
Saudi
Darfur
Maybe these?
I don`t think you want that.
You can ask a Somalian guy about the legal codes there, he might know his country well...I am not an expert in the Somalian field.
Then why mention Somalia?
Perhaps we can't have a discussion because you make such ignorant baseless claims.
Actually you`ll have a hard time finding any statement of mine that wasn`t supported in some manner in this thread.
I tend to think we can`t have a discussion because you keep putting your hands over your ears chanting "That`s not Islam, That`s not Islam, That`s not Islam,".
This is Islam.
It may not be "your" Islam but this is Islam.
