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Did I Just Hear Hillary Say She Was Going To Raise Taxes On The Middle Class

esmith

Veteran Member
So, an opinion piece from the "National Review" last May counters real facts in your world? Hey, maybe you should have just posted an opinion from Donald's favorite source of "news": the "National Enquirer".

"Facts" versus "opinion", and I'll take real facts over a right-wing opinion any day of the week.
We each believe what we believe. I can't help it that your sources are left wing bias:D:D
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
We each believe what we believe. I can't help it that your sources are left wing bias:D:D
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We each believe what we believe. I can't help it that your sources are left wing bias:D:D
As the result of a freak appearance of a wormhole in spacetime,
I heard a snippet of a conversation from 60 years ago....
Dad: "Son, here's your birthday present....that new bicycle you wanted."
Son: "Wow......but where did you buy it?"
Dad: "Wallmart"
Son: "But they're right wing capitalist *****s!"
Dad: "It's still a bicycle."
Son: "No it isn't. You can't trust them."
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
We each believe what we believe. I can't help it that your sources are left wing bias:D:D
You can believe in any garbage you want to believe in, but facts are facts, and you have a lot of trouble accepting them. I said 200,000+ new jobs were created in the last quarter, and we've had sustained economic growth since the end of 2009, and those are easily verifiable facts that you just cannot accept. I actually prefer to live in the real world where facts are facts and opinions are opinions, so you can just go and live in your own little world without me from now on, esmith.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
You can believe in any garbage you want to believe in, but facts are facts, and you have a lot of trouble accepting them. I said 200,000+ new jobs were created in the last quarter, and we've had sustained economic growth since the end of 2009, and those are easily verifiable facts that you just cannot accept. I actually prefer to live in the real world where facts are facts and opinions are opinions, so you can just go and live in your own little world without me from now on, esmith.
Think you better rethink your thinking. Of course if you think that an average GDP growth from 2009 to Dec 2015 of 1.76% is good then I guess you are right.
from http://www.realclearmarkets.com/art...mas_sad_record_on_economic_growth_101987.html
assuming 2.67% RGDP growth for 2016, Obama will leave office having produced an average of 1.55% growth. This would place his presidency fourth from the bottom of the list of 39*, above only those of Herbert Hoover (-5.65%), Andrew Johnson (-0.70%) and Theodore Roosevelt (1.41%)
and for some more bad news
http://www.statista.com/statistics/...-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/
and I got my average for 2009 to Dec 20015 from:
http://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Now she begins to call Trump her husband......
I suppose someone will post a graphical representation of her voice to prove she didn't say what she said, eh?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Now she begins to call Trump her husband......
I suppose someone will post a graphical representation of her voice to prove she didn't say what she said, eh?
If you want I can provide a graph to show in precise detail exactly how much I don't care.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you want I can provide a graph to show in precise detail exactly how much I don't care.
I'd prefer a pie chart.
Why?
It has pie.

Interesting thing about candidates' gaffs.
Listening to NPR this afternoon, they made great fun of Trump's.
But oddly, there was nary a peep about Hillary's almost marriage
to Donny,or her loudly proclaimed middle class tax increase.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And that's the truthiness of it.
This is a problem I see in many liberals (the modern variety, not the classical).
They believe their opinions are THE TRUTH, & treat them as inerrant fact.
Reality doesn't care what liberals, conservatives, libertarians, or commies think.
It will do as it pleases.
(And I suspect that it perversely tries to confound us with ever greater revealed complexity.
Some might say this indicates an intelligence. Wrong! Tis pure malevolence.)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Curious, isn't it?
From university professors to journalists to scientists, the more you know the more likely you are to become a liberal.
What is with that?
Tom
I read a study about two years ago that had it that nine out of ten MENSA scholars and ph.d.'s that commit to one party or the other are Dems.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I read a study about two years ago that had it that nine out of ten MENSA scholars and ph.d.'s that commit to one party or the other are Dems.
It could be that they're the type who flock to something which gives them prestige & validation.
Did your uncited study address the possibility of self selection?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I'd prefer a pie chart.
Why?
It has pie.

Interesting thing about candidates' gaffs.
Listening to NPR this afternoon, they made great fun of Trump's.
But oddly, there was nary a peep about Hillary's almost marriage
to Donny,or her loudly proclaimed middle class tax increase.
To be fair Donald does double down on his "gaffs". On the rare occasions when he acknowledges a mistake they do tend to fade away quicker.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
This is a problem I see in many liberals (the modern variety, not the classical).
They believe their opinions are THE TRUTH, & treat them as inerrant fact.
Reality doesn't care what liberals, conservatives, libertarians, or commies think.
It will do as it pleases.
(And I suspect that it perversely tries to confound us with ever greater revealed complexity.
Some might say this indicates an intelligence. Wrong! Tis pure malevolence.)
Truthiness means you believe something to be true regardless of what the facts say. Colbert himself invented the word very early on during the Colbert Report.
 
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