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So if Bobs still periodically feeling his mother touch his hand and rub his hair, even though she passed away a year ago,,, just as real as phantom pain or is it mental?
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So if Bobs still periodically feeling his mother touch his hand and rub his hair, even though she passed away a year ago,,, just as real as phantom pain or is it mental?
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You never really answered. By the way, here are my missing fingers. Never once a phantom pain because I accepted they were gone the day I lost them.
What you're really asking seems to be is if I, as an atheist, treat transgender people the same way as I treat theists. And the answer is kinda, yeah.
I'm not in the habit of telling people their spiritual experiences are not real. I'm not privy to their subjective experience and I absolutely think atheists who go 'theists are just crazy' are ********.
I'm not a theist because I haven't had any personal experience that would make me a theist. Similarly I'm not transgender because I haven't had the experience of my assigned sex and gender being different. But I absolutely think that people who go 'transgender are just crazy' are ********.
I'm not in the habit of telling people their spiritual experiences are not real. I'm not privy to their subjective experience and I absolutely think atheists who go 'theists are just crazy' are ********.
I'm not a theist because I haven't had any personal experience that would make me a theist. Similarly I'm not transgender because I haven't had the experience of my assigned sex and gender being different. But I absolutely think that people who go 'transgender are just crazy' are ********.
I literally did answer, you just didn't accept my answer.
Also your acceptance has nothing to do with phantom limb syndrome. It's not something you can 'accept' or 'deny' or reason your way out of. Same with clinical depression. It has to do with a neurological response to stimuli that happens regardless of your conscious choices. You not having phantom limb pain is not some achievement you made.
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Yep. Its mental. My missing fingers can't in reality itch or hurt if they aren't there. That is fact.
All pain is mental. All sensation is mental. Mental does not mean not real.
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My missing fingers can't in reality itch or hurt if they aren't there. That is fact.
In fact you can still feel itchiness or pain coming from the area even if your fingers aren't there because the brain projects pain there. The brain being the source of all sensation of pain doesn't mean the pain isn't real.
If you were to go up to someone being treated for phantom pain and being fitted for prosthetics to help and say "you don't need that, your limb is gone just accept it and your pain will go away" then you'd be both dumb and wrong.
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In fact you can still feel itchiness or pain coming from the area even if your fingers aren't there because the brain projects pain there. The brain being the source of all sensation of pain doesn't mean the pain isn't real.
Really?
Its like a man who went blind thinking he seen a light or a man who went deaf thinking he hesrd something.
Its something they used to experience so mentally they think they experience it again when they don't. Its mental not reality.
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You don't get fitted with a prosthetic leg for phantom pain. I know that to.
You get fitted with one for missing function.
*head desk* all experiences of sight and hearing are mental! Mental doesn't mean not real--
Nevermind. I'm done repeating myself for old dogs who can't learn new things.
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Are you really calling me dumb? Tisk tisk.
Getting fitted for prosthetics is literally treatment for phantom pain as well as treatment for loss of function. One thing doesn't exclude the other.
No, I'm calling your behavior obstinate.
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*head desk* all experiences of sight and hearing are mental! Mental doesn't mean not real--
Nevermind. I'm done repeating myself for old dogs who can't learn new things.
So if someone mentally believes and feels a god, does that make a god reality?
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Yes it does. I can speak from experience. Can y ou?
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Well until you can prove you are speaking from experience from yourself, you are speaking of things you don't know.
Shockingly, your experiences aren't universal. You simply have to Google 'prosthetics to treat phantom limb pain.'
I've answered this multiple times. I don't know if their experience is real. But I don't call then crazy or tell them it wasn't. I just say I don't have that experience.
I literally work in physical therapy and have worked directly with people with phantom limb pain in treatment. Which includes mirror technique and prosthetic fitting.
Just because it wasn't your experience doesn't make you am arbiter of other's experiences. Lol.