Do Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics have a scripture?!

[LuisDantas]

Now, that is doubtful theology if I ever met any.

 

[dgirl1986]

There is no scripture and atheism/agnosticsm/skepticism is not a religion.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I shall pray to Saint Dawkins for further guidance on this vexing topic.

 

[Segev Moran]

I don’t think they have any or they need/ed one.
Well sometimes strange things do happen in this world, in case they have.
Please name such scripture and the name of the renowned religion which belongs to them, the sources as to how it got authored, its being secure till our times and its usefulness when it was written/compiled/authored and suitability in our present age.
Thread open to everybody belonging to religion and no-religion.
Regards

No..
We have none...
We do however have a lot of books that try to explain things in a factual way.
Books that educate you and make understand the universe better...

But there is no "The book",
Any book that presents evidence, fact and valid theories is taken seriously...

But that's not it...
Even if we had a book that claims to have all the facts... The point of atheist is that you shouldn't believe anyone but yourself...
Learn for yourself...
If someone says the world is a sphere... go.. read, learn, watch think and find out for yourself.

If you think evolution is wrong, go to the museum, see the evidence...
Read the books, Talk to people..

That's why a lot of atheist present the claim that theist are lazy.. It's not in a meaning of "Lazy" rather that theists accept truths without verifying the facts.. without trying to learn, to falsify, to undermine, to actually understand things.
Rather they accept things as they are told but a few "Chosen".

 

[paarsurrey]

That's why a lot of atheist present the claim that theist are lazy.. It's not in a meaning of "Lazy" rather that theists accept truths without verifying the facts.. without trying to learn, to falsify, to undermine, to actually understand things.
Rather they accept things as they are told but a few "Chosen".

So the Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics are never lazy, they are the most active people in the world. Whatever they say or write is fact and science, and could be nothing but a fact. The Theists must accept blind-folded whatever they say or write, so that they are not labelled lazy. Right? Please
Regards

 

[viole]

I don’t think they have any or they need/ed one.
Well sometimes strange things do happen in this world, in case they have.
Please name such scripture and the name of the renowned religion which belongs to them, the sources as to how it got authored, its being secure till our times and its usefulness when it was written/compiled/authored and suitability in our present age.
Thread open to everybody belonging to religion and no-religion.
Regards

If you identify Scriptures with something that cannot be possibly wrong, then no. We do not have them.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Demonslayer]

So the Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics are never lazy, they are the most active people in the world. Whatever they say or write is fact and science, and could be nothing but a fact. The Theists must accept blind-folded whatever they say or write, so that they are not labelled lazy. Right? Please
Regards

I think the idea is that science is still actively trying to learn the truth about things. Let's take the origin of the universe for example.

- Scientists are endlessly searching for the answer, sending probes deep into space, developing theories which they test, reject, refine, reading all the various types of "noise" in the galaxy, etc.
- Theists say "God made it" and drop the mic.

Ditto many mysteries of life where theists claim they already have the answer (God did it), while the rest of us continue to search for the real answer.

I wouldn't take it as an insult, it's not lazy like doesn't work hard, etc. It's just in the sense of accepting the answer you were given as a child and never spending any time of effort to look at other possible answers.

That's my take on it anyway, just being a butt-in-ski.

 

[McBell]

So the Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics are never lazy, they are the most active people in the world. Whatever they say or write is fact and science, and could be nothing but a fact. The Theists must accept blind-folded whatever they say or write, so that they are not labelled lazy. Right? Please
Regards

You, like so many theists who felt threatened before you, have it completely backwards.
No surprise mind you.

 

[RedStorm]

Is there a point of uniting in such away? Atheism isn't something its the lack of it. Many people who happen to not believe in god have similar views on other things sometimes. But thats the same with almost everything.

 

[Segev Moran]

So the Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics are never lazy, they are the most active people in the world. Whatever they say or write is fact and science, and could be nothing but a fact. The Theists must accept blind-folded whatever they say or write, so that they are not labelled lazy. Right? Please
Regards

Please, read my post again.. The lazy here means in a sense of accepting answers without bothering to find out if they are true or not.

 

[paarsurrey]

Please, read my post again.. The lazy here means in a sense of accepting answers without bothering to find out if they are true or not.

I hold that even in that sense, as the contributions of the religious people to science suggest, the non-believing have been more lazy. And of course one won't agree with me, it is their right to disagree with me. Please
Regards

 

[LuisDantas]

I hold that even in that sense, as the contributions of the religious people to science suggest, the non-believing have been more lazy. And of course one won't agree with me, it is their right to disagree with me. Please
Regards

Please try to remember that the opposite of "religious" isn't "unbeliever".

In truth, the most worthwhile religious practice isn't even about believing at all.

And if you are suggesting that belief in God is somehow better correlated with scientific discovery then its absence... oh boy, you are so not going to convince me!

 

[Segev Moran]

I hold that even in that sense, as the contributions of the religious people to science suggest, the non-believing have been more lazy. And of course one won't agree with me, it is their right to disagree with me. Please
Regards

Lets check the ratio...

Try and see how many theist scientist are world wide and how many are not...

 

[gnostic]

If Buddha had belonged to Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism/Humanism/Secularism or would have wanted to be his follower as such, they wouldn't have needed any scripture from Buddha, and Buddha would have left none. The existence of a scripture in a religion itself is proof that they don't belong to Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism/Humanism/Secularism.
Regards

Clearly, you don't understand the Buddha...and you don't understand Buddhism.

What you are saying is truly hypocritical. Neither Muhammad, nor Allah a single word down. Muhammad's followers wrote down what he taught.

Revealed religion? Pig's a####!

 

[gnostic]

The believers of the Truthful Revealed Religion get twofold reward for every virtuous deed done by one, one in this world and the other in the Hereafter, while non-believers get one reward only.
So, my choice/option is with the Truthful Revealed Religion, others could happily differ with me.
Regards

I don't see following the same path of Muhammad lead to "truthfulness". Quite frankly, I feel the same way with Mirza Ghulam Ahmadi.

Neither guys are honest...the only plus I see with Mirza is that he is a peaceful person, just not one with integrity. Muhammad on the other hand was never peaceful.

 

[gnostic]

Can I ask you a simple question, paarsurrey?

What other scriptures have you read?​

I am asking you because you are proclaim yourself to be an Ahmadi. And in Ahmadiyya, the people believed that the Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and Confucius to be all "prophets". And yet, you don't seem to know what they each teach at all.

And you keep talking about revealed religion as I if it is the only path, and yet Buddhism and Hinduism are dharma religions, not revealed.

And Confucianism is not a religion at all, but is a philosophy.

I think the Ahmadi Muslims are so focused on the Qur'an, that they saying that believe in the Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and Confucius don't actually know much about what they teach at all. It seemed to be empty and hypocritical claims.

Again, I would ask you - what other scriptures have you read?

And do you accept what they teach in the non-Abrahamic scriptures or philosophy?

 

[LuisDantas]

Come to think of it - what do you think of the Tao Te Ching, @paarsurrey ?

 

[paarsurrey]

Can I ask you a simple question, paarsurrey?

What other scriptures have you read?​

I am asking you because you are proclaim yourself to be an Ahmadi. And in Ahmadiyya, the people believed that the Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and Confucius to be all "prophets". And yet, you don't seem to know what they each teach at all.
And you keep talking about revealed religion as I if it is the only path, and yet Buddhism and Hinduism are dharma religions, not revealed.
And Confucianism is not a religion at all, but is a philosophy.
I think the Ahmadi Muslims are so focused on the Qur'an, that they saying that believe in the Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and Confucius don't actually know much about what they teach at all. It seemed to be empty and hypocritical claims.
Again, I would ask you - what other scriptures have you read?
And do you accept what they teach in the non-Abrahamic scriptures or philosophy?

The more important thing is that I intend to read all the revealed scripture in the world, and it is neither against my faith/religion nor the reason:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 2: Al-Baqarah البَقَرَة

[2:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[2:2] Alif Lam Mim.
[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,
[2:4] Who believe in the unseen and observe Prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
[2:5] And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee, and that which was revealed before thee, and they have firm faith in what is yet to come.
[2:6] It is they who follow the guidance of their Lord and it is they who shall prosper.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=2

And it is a sign of those“who follow the guidance of their Lord and it is they who shall prosper”.
Thanks for asking the question.
Regards

 

[McBell]

Thanks for asking the question.
Regards

So, are you going to answer the question?

please note that "intend to read" is not the same as "have read".

 

[gnostic]

The more important thing is that I intend to read all the revealed scripture in the world, and it is neither against my faith/religion nor the reason:

I have asked if you have read non-revealed scriptures, like from Buddhism and Hinduism, Zoroastrian, Confucianism, etc.

Your religion (Ahmadiyya) claimed that believe Confucius, Zoroaster, Krishna and the Buddha are all prophets.

Why do you think I even mention them, if these people?

These people belonged to "non-revealed" religions...and Confucius was more of philosopher than a theologian, and his Confucianism is philosophy, not a religion. For the life of me, I don't understand why Confucius is listed as a prophet in Ahmadiyya.

Anyway, I am talking about scriptures from non-revealed religions. The Qur'an, Tanakh and Bible are not non-revealed texts.

And by "READ", I mean reading the texts from cover-to-cover, and not just read quoted selected passages. Anyone can read quoted passages, but it is whole different thing, reading a text in their ENTIRETY.

I am not asking you if you read all of them, because with Hinduism that an impossibility, considering how many they have. If you the most important ones, that would be good enough for me.