Do black people commit most of the crime in the US?

[Nous]

You're really bad at detecting mirthful exaggeration.

Like Birth of a Nation was just a mirthful stretching of the truth.

 

[George-ananda]

I didn't see where Rushton made any comment about Blacks being "intellectually inferior". My own statements are about IQ scores. And there is an unequivocal racial pattern in such scores. If one wishes to use the term “intellectually inferior,” one cannot deny that whites are “intellectually inferior” also.

To my mind, what IQ tests measure is not known. They seem to measure something, but it is not an entirely stable trait. Initially women consistently scored lower on IQ tests than men. That has changed somewhat in the past 100 years. I think women now consistently score at least as well or better on certain portions of these tests.

I feel IQ is overly-addressed in these discussions because it can be enumerated and statistically analyzed easily. Vulnerability to criminality and violent behavior is affected by the interplay of a large number of genetic factors. IQ is just one factor.

 

[BSM1]

You don't necessarily have to be rich in order to know rich people. Even if someone grows up in a poor family in a poor neighborhood, they might get into college where they will undoubtedly see rich students. Or they might work in a fancy restaurant or hotel where they will encounter wealthy people (who can often be more demanding than the average Joe).

And even if one doesn't meet any wealthy people personally, they'll still "know them by their fruits," so to speak.

Whenever prices go up, a wealthy person decided that. Whenever wages or benefits go down, a wealthy person decided that. Whenever corruption or bribery is reported, then one can safely assume that the wealthy are involved in it. Whenever people go around flaunting their wealth in countless ways, then they are visible and known to those around them. Many wealthy people are public or semi-public figures, generally known to their local community if not nationally famous. Some wealthy people ostensibly want their reputation to be known as someone who is respected and feared - someone you "don't want to mess with." Those who throw their weight around like that end up being "known" far more intimately than those who are modest and stay in the shadows.

Sooo...you think "...a wealthy person..." controls the wage/price dynamics of a free market society? Hmmm...which school taught you your basic Economics 101? That must have been an interesting class.

 

[columbus]

Like Birth of a Nation was just a mirthful stretching of the truth.

Yep.
@Revoltingest was right.
Tom

 

[Stevicus]

Sooo...you think "...a wealthy person..." controls the wage/price dynamics of a free market society? Hmmm...which school taught you your basic Economics 101? That must have been an interesting class.

I will tell you if you first tell me where you learned basic reading comprehension.

 

[Spiderman]

My new probation officer is black. He's a very good person.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yep.
@Revoltingest was right.
Tom

From the guy who thought Clockwork Orange was a musical comedy.

 

[BSM1]

I will tell you if you first tell me where you learned basic reading comprehension.[/QUOT


I asked you first.

 

[roger1440]

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[Stevicus]

Econ 201a and 201b, along with Econ 343, at the University of Arizona. I wasn't an econ major, but I've taken some courses and did some study. I know enough to be able to differentiate between reality and capitalist propaganda.

 

[Stevicus]

But you are pretty much blaming rich people, as a whole, for the problems you listed. Enron executives were rich, sure, and they caused massive amounts of damage, but Bill Gates is very-super-ultra-wealthy and he donates tons and tons and tons of money. David Koche has a fiscal libertarian approach and wants fewer taxes and social services, but Warren Buffet has made a case to pay more taxes for more social services.
Saying "rich people are this and that," it's just not true. You might as well say "cops are this and that" or "black people are this and that" or "gay men are this and that," really, it applies the same to so many different groups. We can't even say all Klan members are racist, because truthfully some aren't and are only in it because of family, boyfriend/husband, or other pressures to be in it, despite them not agreeing at all with the racist ideology.

I didn't say that they were all like that. As I said earlier, I agree that there are good apples and bad apples. But even with the requisite disclaimers, that doesn't really change the basic facts of what I was stating.

It's just like I was telling someone else (it may have been this thread or another thread; they kind of blend together sometimes), not all cops are racist, nor is there any indication of any racist agenda among the cops or the government as a whole. But that doesn't change the issues over which the protest was made. It doesn't mean that all cops are bad, but there's obviously a serious and divisive issue at hand in which the cops are at the center of attention.

By the same token, when it comes to economic issues, those who are the movers and shakers in our economy also become the center of attention. Obviously, it doesn't mean they're "all" the same.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I didn't say that they were all like that. As I said earlier, I agree that there are good apples and bad apples. But even with the requisite disclaimers, that doesn't really change the basic facts of what I was stating.

You didn't say that though. You said where there is this bad thing, there is a rich person. Powerball winners are rich, and they don't have the power or means to even dream or think about the things you accuse "rich people" of. And, even among the corporate executives--those of a group who sometimes have the power to have done what you accuse them of--again some of them don't do things like that and some who don't and most who don't have enough power to have done your accusations.

 

[Stevicus]

You didn't say that though. You said where there is this bad thing, there is a rich person. Powerball winners are rich, and they don't have the power or means to even dream or think about the things you accuse "rich people" of. And, even among the corporate executives--those of a group who sometimes have the power to have done what you accuse them of--again some of them don't do things like that and some who don't and most who don't have enough power to have done your accusations.

I know what I said. With all due respect, I think you're reading too much into what I wrote.

One thing is for certain, at least in regard to my "accusations": It wasn't a poor person who did any of those things.

 

[gnomon]

Personally I don't like peanut butter with jam. And that statement was as relevant as the last few pages of this ****ing thread.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

One thing is for certain, at least in regard to my "accusations": It wasn't a poor person who did any of those things.

And there it goes again.

 

[Stevicus]

And there it goes again.

Honestly, I have no idea what you're getting at here.