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Do innocent children go to Heaven or Hell?

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
What happens to innocents when they die and have not had the chance to accept Christ as their savior? What about the children of Wiccans? Atheists? Buddhists? Any of these children who die say, before the age of 2, are they condemned to Hell because they haven't been baptised or christened in a Christian ritual?

Obviously this is a question for the Christians out there but lets hear everyone's opinion on the subject.
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tarekabdo12

Active Member
What happens to innocents when they die and have not had the chance to accept Christ as their savior? What about the children of Wiccans? Atheists? Buddhists? Any of these children who die say, before the age of 2, are they condemned to Hell because they haven't been baptised or christened in a Christian ritual?

Obviously this is a question for the Christians out there but lets hear everyone's opinion on the subject.


In Islam, they all go to Heaven regardless of their beliefs or actions as they still can't take a choice.
 
Is your God a just God? If a child dies it has no sins because it doesn't know good from evil. What happens to anyone who never heard of Jesus? Can they be denied salvation? Not if your God is a just God!

If they have not accepted Christ as their savior and that is supposed to be the only way into Heaven

That is incorrect doctrine
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
While everyone is born with a sin nature, I believe any child of any culture/race is considered innocent and their spirit goes directly to the Lord when they die, if they have not reached the point or age of understanding and are not yet accountable for sin.

If this is true, then isn't the most selfless act anyone can do is to murder all the children under 2 that they see -- since it guarantees their seat in Heaven? What is living out 80 years on Earth when we can instead kill them young and give them Heaven?

In fact, don't answer here. I'm starting a thread on this question particularly.
 
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Please outline what you feel is the correct doctrine.
James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Matt 25:33-46
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

As you can see works is the proof of your faith. Works do not save you, but they are the outward sign of your faith. Anyone can say they have faith, but your works are the evidence of it. Even Satan has faith in Jesus, but he has no works.


John 15:10
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

John 14:21,23
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will
keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The atonement (grace) only covers those who keep the commandments to the best of their ability, or to put it in a different way, those who love Jesus. The Father loves those who love Jesus (those who keep the commandments). The converse is also true. The Father doesn’t love those who don’t love Jesus.
 

chinu

chinu
What happens to innocents when they die and have not had the chance to accept Christ as their savior? What about the children of Wiccans? Atheists? Buddhists? Any of these children who die say, before the age of 2, are they condemned to Hell because they haven't been baptised or christened in a Christian ritual?

Obviously this is a question for the Christians out there but lets hear everyone's opinion on the subject.
We all are very small childerns infront of "God",
No concession we are 5 or 50, Everbody is same infront of "Him", No age bar.. or Ladies first.. There. :)

_/\_
Chinu
 

work in progress

Well-Known Member
If this is true, then isn't the most selfless act anyone can do is to murder all the children under 2 that they see -- since it guarantees their seat in Heaven? What is living out 80 years on Earth when we can instead kill them young and give them Heaven?

In fact, don't answer here. I'm starting a thread on this question particularly.
That's one of the fatal flaws of eternal rewards that come at a price! Why would fundamentalists be so worked up about abortion for example, if they believed that babies automatically go to heaven. They could skip the trials of this world and risk doing something that would consign them to hell.

Another flaw that - briefly scanning through this thread - hasn't been mentioned yet,is what about the animals? If there are eternal heavenly rewards promised for humans, why not the same for at least the slightly less developed animals -- especially our pets, who have the same level of emotions that we have?

Fundamentalists get twisted in knots trying to figure out what to tell young children who have had a favourite pet die. Are they going to lie to them and say that the dog or cat went to heaven and they will see them again one day, or do they tell them that heaven is exclusively reserved from humans....even though a lot more humans are less deserving of heaven than most dogs!

I came across a Beliefnet poll from a couple of years back that indicated at least a third of American Christians believe animals, or some animals go to heaven. But, whenever I've posted it here, the religious crowd conveniently ignores it without comment!
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them. Mark 10:13-16
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
What happens to innocents when they die and have not had the chance to accept Christ as their savior? What about the children of Wiccans? Atheists? Buddhists? Any of these children who die say, before the age of 2, are they condemned to Hell because they haven't been baptised or christened in a Christian ritual?

Obviously this is a question for the Christians out there but lets hear everyone's opinion on the subject.

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Without hesitation, I believe that a child that dies is immediately welcomed by the Father.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
What happens to innocents when they die and have not had the chance to accept Christ as their savior? What about the children of Wiccans? Atheists? Buddhists? Any of these children who die say, before the age of 2, are they condemned to Hell because they haven't been baptised or christened in a Christian ritual?

Obviously this is a question for the Christians out there but lets hear everyone's opinion on the subject.

Innocent children go where God wants them. It is possible for wicked children to go to Hell when the time comes for that to happen.
 
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