Do some people really find the Bhagavad Gita evil?

[Subhankar Zac]

The test is by the actions. If there is a terrible amount of evil it would show more in their followers. I certainly never heard of anything like a "terrorist Hindu" but I'm not from a place with a lot of Hindus, by all means I would like to understand how some of these evil scripts are used to terrorize civilians and opposing religions.

Hinduism being a collection of millions of religions doesn't speak of forceful conversions like the Quran and the bible hints at. It has no bias against people of other religions.
Caste system, human sacrifice and SATI are a few of the negative and extreme ideologies of Hinduism.
Nevertheless, very few Hindus tried to penalize Jains in the past. Buddhists were also attacked by Hindus after Ashoka died but not in the name of religion.
Religious bias in Hinduism perhaps came after the Islamic invasion by the Mughals and colonialism. It was then when Hinduism became radicalized and the partition of India added fuel to the fire.
Hindus still had secterian conflicts like in denominations of Christianity and Islam, but had a pantheon of many gods, all equal of devotion.
Islamic rule in India brutalized Hindus, Jains and Buddhists. Made Sikhism into a militant faith which was a very pacifist one before its two gurus were murdered by Islamic kings. Temples were destroyed for mosques and Hindus would pay taxes.
Then colonialism added racism that has taken a serious turn in India.
RSS, VHP, bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, etc are well known terror gangs of Hinduism.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

The test is by the actions. If there is a terrible amount of evil it would show more in their followers. I certainly never heard of anything like a "terrorist Hindu" but I'm not from a place with a lot of Hindus, by all means I would like to understand how some of these evil scripts are used to terrorize civilians and opposing religions.

Hinduism being a collection of millions of religions doesn't speak of forceful conversions like the Quran and the bible hints at. It has no bias against people of other religions.
Caste system, human sacrifice and SATI are a few of the negative and extreme ideologies of Hinduism.
Nevertheless, very few Hindus tried to penalize Jains in the past. Buddhists were also attacked by Hindus after Ashoka died but not in the name of religion.
Religious bias in Hinduism perhaps came after the Islamic invasion by the Mughals and colonialism. It was then when Hinduism became radicalized and the partition of India added fuel to the fire.
Hindus still had secterian conflicts like in denominations of Christianity and Islam, but had a pantheon of many gods, all equal of devotion.
Islamic rule in India brutalized Hindus, Jains and Buddhists. Made Sikhism into a militant faith which was a very pacifist one before its two gurus were murdered by Islamic kings. Temples were destroyed for mosques and Hindus would pay taxes.
Then colonialism added racism that has taken a serious turn in India.
RSS, VHP, bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, etc are well known terror gangs of Hinduism.

 

[Jainarayan]

I think Buddha is off their list of avataras, it is Balarama, and of course, Chaitanya.

Even at the temple I went to (go to? will go to?) around sides of the three sanctums of Vishnu (Sri Guruvayurappan, Sri Satyanarayana and Sri Venkateshwara) are almost all the avatars, including Sri Dhanvantari, Vitobha, Lakshminarayana and I think Sri Hayagrīva (I don't remember exactly), and more, but there is no Buddha.

 

[atanu]

The test is by the actions. If there is a terrible amount of evil it would show more in their followers. I certainly never heard of anything like a "terrorist Hindu" but I'm not from a place with a lot of Hindus, by all means I would like to understand how some of these evil scripts are used to terrorize civilians and opposing religions.

I do not think that any evil is done based on Gita (or any other scripture, IMO). Mostly the reason, at least for Hindus, is allegiance to Lord and to Dharma.

However, rajasic (royal) and tamasic (inert) guna-s (qualities) of mind, drive the ego-s (already reeling under 'I-mine') to act that appear as evil from another ego being's perspective.

 

[Aupmanyav]

śivāya vishnu rūpaya śivaḥ rūpaya vishnave
śivasya hridayam viṣṇur viṣṇoscha hridayam śivaḥ
yathā śivamayo vishnu evam vishnu maya śivaḥ
yathāntharam na paschyāmi thathame swasthirayushi

The transliteration may be a bit off.

Transliteration is OK. FYI, this is the majority belief, whatever the sectarians say.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Buddhists were also attacked by Hindus after Ashoka died but not in the name of religion.

Any proof other than some buddhist writings? Nalanda was supported till 13th Century, even if Buddhism had disappeared from India by that time.

RSS, VHP, bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, etc are well known terror gangs of Hinduism.

Are they not necessary with Congress, Communists, and the self-proclaimed saviors of backward classes and dalits (Mulayam Singh, Laloo Yadav, Mayavati, Karunanidhi); and Muslim, Christian and Sikh organizations trying to run-down Hinduism?

 

[Jainarayan]

Transliteration is OK. FYI, this is the majority belief, whatever the sectarians say.

It works nicely for me. Pictures are easy enough to find, but I would like to find a small murti. I thought I've even seen a nama japa auṃ śrī hariharāya namaḥ long ago, but I might have imagined it.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Any proof other than some buddhist writings. Nalanda was supported till 13th Century, even if Buddhism had disappeared from India by that time.

They were not large scale massacres but small regional conflicts of words and assault that comes in the writings of buddhist monks.
Hindus were fairly liberal then except for caste system, SATI, human sacrifice, etc.
Religious hatred didn't exist back then.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Even at the temple I went to (go to? will go to?) around sides of the three sanctums of Vishnu (Sri Guruvayurappan, Sri Satyanarayana and Sri Venkateshwara) are almost all the avatars, including Sri Dhanvantari, Vitobha, Lakshminarayana and I think Sri Hayagrīva (I don't remember exactly), and more, but there is no Buddha.

Probably it is a Vaishnava temple. If you go to some other temple you will find Vishnu, Shiva, Durga, Ganesha, Kartikeya (Murugan) and Buddha, Nanak, and perhaps Mahavira also.

It works nicely for me. Pictures are easy enough to find, but I would like to find a small murti. I thought I've even seen a nama japa auṃ śrī hariharāya namaḥ long ago, but I might have imagined it.

Murtis outside India are a bit costly. Check at temples, perhaps you will find something that you like.

 

[idav]

After all, they are human.

I know there can always be violence but HInduism has established a pretty strong precedence for non-violence. It's all Ghandi's fault as a Hindu, the way he handled situations with clashing Muslims is unprecedented.

 

[idav]

Hinduism being a collection of millions of religions doesn't speak of forceful conversions like the Quran and the bible hints at. It has no bias against people of other religions.
Caste system, human sacrifice and SATI are a few of the negative and extreme ideologies of Hinduism.
Nevertheless, very few Hindus tried to penalize Jains in the past. Buddhists were also attacked by Hindus after Ashoka died but not in the name of religion.
Religious bias in Hinduism perhaps came after the Islamic invasion by the Mughals and colonialism. It was then when Hinduism became radicalized and the partition of India added fuel to the fire.
Hindus still had secterian conflicts like in denominations of Christianity and Islam, but had a pantheon of many gods, all equal of devotion.
Islamic rule in India brutalized Hindus, Jains and Buddhists. Made Sikhism into a militant faith which was a very pacifist one before its two gurus were murdered by Islamic kings. Temples were destroyed for mosques and Hindus would pay taxes.
Then colonialism added racism that has taken a serious turn in India.
RSS, VHP, bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, etc are well known terror gangs of Hinduism.

This is interesting, I do wonder how some of the political laws in India(especially some of the more controversial ones) might stem from Hindu writings or as a result of run-ins with other faiths.

 

[Aupmanyav]

@Shubhankar, please remember, even in Jayadeva's time Buddha had already been accepted as an avatara of Lord Vishnu. So, it is unreasonable to say that Hindus oppressed Buddhists. It is only the plaint of Buddhist monks who had lost their importance due to people returning back to Hinduism. Reason - perhaps they had made Buddhism too academic, beyond the understanding of common people.

This is interesting, I do wonder how some of the political laws in India(especially some of the more controversial ones) might stem from Hindu writings or as a result of run-ins with other faiths.

At the moment, all other religions are entitled to their own personal laws. Only Hindus have to submit to the laws that the Congress governments made.

 

[Jainarayan]

Probably it is a Vaishnava temple. If you go to some other temple you will find Vishnu, Shiva, Durga, Ganesha, Kartikeya (Murugan) and Buddha, Nanak, and perhaps Mahavira also.

It's predominately southern style, with more forms of Deity than you can shake an incense stick at: Ayyappan, Subramaniya (as displayed on the sanctum), Radha-Krishna, Shiva, Durga-Lakshmi-Saraswati, Kannika Parameshwari, Sri Andal, Balaji, Mahaganapati, Rama Parivar, Hanuman (large murti in his own sanctum), the previously mentioned forms of Vishnu, Garuda in his own sanctum, Navagraha, Gayatri, and a thousand more I can't quite remember because it's been about two years since I went.

Murtis outside India are a bit costly. Check at temples, perhaps you will find something that you like.

As I have found out. I've gotten a few nice small brass ones from Rudra Centre. I think they are in Chennai, not sure.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Terror gangs? Now that's pretty strong. RSS is the largest volunteer organisation in India, and are often first on the scene in natural disasters. Since many of these mentioned organisations (political parties) have very large memberships, much of Hindu India must be terrorist. Since when is standing up for people subject for centuries to discrimination, invasions, foreign rule, etc., mean you're a terrorist?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishva_Hindu_Parishad

You need to step up your research then.
Mahatma Gandhi was shot by a man who had affiliations with the RSS.
RSS views on women and on rape is appalling.
VHP that supports gay people behind bars but still worships Krishna who seduced Shiva in the form of Mohini, is standing up for nothing but a precursor to a Hindu Taliban.
Osama had a wide name in Saudi for donating money to poor Sunni families. Hitler often helped his people in many projects and made sure that the welfare of the Germans of that time were kept at high standards.
So, they must be exemplary philanthropists as well. I see a AQIS, ISIS, Al nusra, RSS, Bajrang Sal, VHP, Lord Army Uganda, kkk as the same.
Bigoted, evil and with time destructive.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It's predominately southern style, with more forms of Deity than you can shake an incense stick at: Ayyappan, Subramaniya (as displayed on the sanctum), Radha-Krishna, Shiva, Durga-Lakshmi-Saraswati, Kannika Parameshwari, Sri Andal, Balaji, Mahaganapati, Rama Parivar, Hanuman (large murti in his own sanctum), the previously mentioned forms of Vishnu, Garuda in his own sanctum, Navagraha, Gayatri, and a thousand more I can't quite remember because it's been about two years since I went.

Oh, we shake the incense stick or bow to all deities. I hope you enjoyed the variety.

 

[idav]

At the moment, all other religions are entitled to their own personal laws. Only Hindus have to submit to the laws that the Congress governments made.

Oh wow, thats one way to do it.

 

[Jainarayan]

I hope you enjoyed the variety.

Yeah, but it takes forever to "make the rounds".

 

[Subhankar Zac]

This is interesting, I do wonder how some of the political laws in India(especially some of the more controversial ones) might stem from Hindu writings or as a result of run-ins with other faiths.

Modern laws of India comes from the British. Which is to this day homosexuality is a crime in India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Burma, etc.
Caste based reservation is controversial too. It started out as filling the gap between the lower and high castes by giving extra benefits to the lower caste citizens but now it's unfair on others.
Though clhild marriages are punishable, still they do occur in villages.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Mahatma Gandhi was shot by a man who had affiliations with the RSS.
RSS views on women and on rape is appalling.
VHP that supports gay people behind bars but still worships Krishna who seduced Shiva in the form of Mohini, is standing up for nothing but a precursor to a Hindu Taliban.
I see a AQIS, ISIS, Al nusra, RSS, Bajrang Sal, VHP, Lord Army Uganda, kkk as the same. Bigoted, evil and with time destructive.

Nathuram Godse was affiliated to Hindu Mahasabha and not to RSS. Views can differ. Not all Hindus like their women in skimpy clothes particularly in the law-less environment that we have today or have drinks in bars at mid-night. If it were not for these organizations, the Italian lady and the heir-apparent, Gadha Prasad, of the dynasty, would have been in control siphoning Indian money by buying helicopters at six times their cost, as her husband did in buying guns, submarines, etc.

 

[idav]

Modern laws of India comes from the British. Which is to this day homosexuality is a crime in India, Sri Lanka, Singapore, Burma, etc.
Caste based reservation is controversial too. It started out as filling the gap between the lower and high castes by giving extra benefits to the lower caste citizens but now it's unfair on others.
Though clhild marriages are punishable, still they do occur in villages.

What is the take on sexuality in the Gita, is it evil?