Do the Abrahamic god need/want/demand worship from humans?

[Alla Prima]

I think maybe the Bahai faith has rewritten Islam (as well as other religions) This isn't something new though as Christianity rewrote Judaism.

Didn't Christianity simply add to the tradition?

How has the Bahai faith rewritten Islam? Link?

 

[TheKnight]

Didn't Christianity simply add to the tradition?

How has the Bahai faith rewritten Islam? Link?

Oh no. Christianity rewrote...I'll make a thread on it one of these days when I get a chance.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

no mystery in that.


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Indeed - hence my sarcastic response.

 

[sweetpea]

If God is our creator why would he create anything less than perfect. If we were perfect why would he need/want/demand anything from us. If God is perfect what would he/she need - what is god lacking that we could give him or her

 

[.lava]

Yes I find that interesting. Islam rewrites Christianity. I wonder how Muslims would react to a new religion rewriting Islam.

what a clummsy statement...if some people did not rewrite Islam there would not be sections in Islam today.


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[Alla Prima]

what a clummsy statement...

I'm shocked you think so.

if some people did not rewrite Islam there would not be sections in Islam today.

Explain please.

 

[Alla Prima]

If God is our creator why would he create anything less than perfect. If we were perfect why would he need/want/demand anything from us. If God is perfect what would he/she need - what is god lacking that we could give him or her

toys?

 

[Andal]

Sufism seems to have rewritten orthodox Islam but perhaps I'm wrong.

 

[.lava]

Sufism seems to have rewritten orthodox Islam but perhaps I'm wrong.

you're wrong check it out...

www.mihr.com



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[Alla Prima]

Islam re-writing Jesus from son of 'God' is like a future religion re-writing Muhammad from the prophet of Allah. One can only imagine the reaction from Muslims.

 

[Andal]

you're wrong check it out...

www.mihr.com



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Now I'm confused because while I know a couple of Sufis and they maintain that their tradition is accurate and Qur'anic, I have heard other Muslims say that they have changed the doctrine and are borderline apostate.

Since you are Muslim though, I defer to your knowledge Perhaps those who were accusing Sufis were themselves confused.

 

[.lava]

One can only imagine the reaction from Muslims.

you get my reaction everyday to rewritten Islam and Mohammad (PBUH).

btw...what's this topic about again? us? Muslims? Islam? Mohammad SAW? how would Muslim react to this or that?


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[Alla Prima]

you get my reaction everyday to rewritten Islam and Mohammad (PBUH).

Where are you getting this rewriting from?

 

[.lava]

Where are you getting this rewriting from?

from 400.000 fake hadiths, history and commentaries of Qur'an that's written by men who's not chosen by God directly.


and you



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[Alla Prima]

from 400.000 fake hadiths, history and commentaries of Qur'an that's written by men who's not chosen by God directly.


and you



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In other words anything that doesn't fit your rosy picture of Islam is a rewrite. I believe this is referred to as denial.

 

[.lava]

In other words anything that doesn't fit your rosy picture of Islam is a rewrite. I believe this is referred to as denial.

nope, there is nothing to deny.


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[rojse]

In other words anything that doesn't fit your rosy picture of Islam is a rewrite. I believe this is referred to as denial.

Your hatred of Islam is blatant and boring.

 

[gnostic]

Do God need worships from humans?

no

Do God require humans to worship him?

i know it is strange but i do not understand question.

Thanks for replying to the OP, .lava.

Since Zindagee Rahmaan didn't answer my reply yet, I thought I put my question to you (considering you're both Muslims).

If Allah doesn't need or desire worship, then why do the Qur'an have this verse?

I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me.

This verse seemed to me, indicate he "want" or "need" humans to worship him, doesn't it?

The other thing is that Yusuf Ali's translation of the same verse, is sightly different.

I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me.

First of, which translation has the correct context?

The Palmers and Rodwell's translations are more similar to the Pickthall's translation.

Because to "serve" and to "worship" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing.

If "serve" is the correct translation or context, then my other question is:

Why would a god require "services" of mankind, if he actually don't need humans?

It sort of contradictory to say God don't need humans, and yet at the same time, say he want people to either "worship" or "serve" him.

 

[Alla Prima]

back to the topic

 

[Alla Prima]

I don't buy the 'God' thing but if I did I'd say he demands to be worshipped cause he's got some nasty things in store for you if you don't comply.