MrMrdevincamus
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I think all religions are faulty. My personal belief is not one is 100% accurate. I chose Christianity for several reasons , and thats the facts baby' ~
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I'm curious what the most stunning examples of mercy in Islam scriptures might be
Is there anything on the order of Hosea
see --> Hosea and his family, a portrait of grace
or possibly Jonah?
Is there a spectacular portrayal of mercy to point to?
I'm curious what the most stunning examples of mercy in Islam scriptures might be
Is there anything on the order of Hosea
see --> Hosea and his family, a portrait of grace
or possibly Jonah?
Is there a spectacular portrayal of mercy to point to?
You can also read 5:27-31 about the two sons of the first man named Adam, one of whom sincerely worshipped Allah
Of course the story of Jonas is also mentioned in the Quran. There is also the story of Job
I assume you are aware that there already were Jewish priests in Egypt who had built a temple in southern Egypt where they performed animal sacrifices and believed YHWH had a wife according to archaeological discoveries and Elephantine papyri
http://m.jpost.com/#/app/article/318363
"Henotheism (Greek ἑνας θεός henas theos "one god") is the worship of a single god while not denying the existence or possible existence of other deities.[1][2] Friedrich Schelling (1775–1854) coined the word, and Friedrich Welcker (1784-1868) used it to depict primordial monotheism among ancient Greeks.[3]" - Wikipedia
I have shown to you non-Mormon clergy that accepts Mormons as Christians which you have asked for.
It is how a word is used that gives it meaning.
The contradiction is that at one moment God needs to test people to know their hearts but at another God knows everyone's heart without any test.
Regarding Monotheism being a constant in the bible, I suggest reading Psalms. You will find some references to multiple gods existing.
the Bible speaks of other godz mainly in derogatory or poetic fashion. God says in Isaiah is there another God, I know of none.
Perhaps, but the sacrifices at places other than the temple site and worship of female deity would not be seeing eye to eye with the words given to Moses
Perhaps, but the sacrifices at places other than the temple site and worship of female deity would not be seeing eye to eye with the words given to Moses
And is theologically speaking Christianity and Islam sects of Judaism?
I hope I am posting this in the correct forum. Recently, during the course of a debate elsewhere these two propositions have been asserted as factual statements:
1. Jews, Christians and Muslims worship the same GodI am interested in the views of others, especially Jews, Christians and Muslims on whether they agree with either one or both of the propositions, and if not why not?
2. Theologically, Christianity and Islam are sects of Judaism
Islam is not a Judaic sect nor a child of Judaism.I'm late to jump in on this but thought I would respond to the OP. My personal opinion is that no one worships the same god, because everyone's mental construct of their god is different. Of course, some may be more similar than others. In answer to your second proposition, I do not believe Christianity and Islam are "sects" of Judaism, but perhaps could be described as "children" of Judaism.
Of course I am aware of the term "Henotheism" as it used often to describe my own religion Hinduism. In Hinduism we also worship only one God Brahman, but different Hindus worship Brahman as Vishnu, Shiva, Shakti, Ganesha(though rare) and do not deny the other. Hence, it is an obvious henotheistic religion.
But sorry Christianity and especially Islam is not henotheistic. They do not worship other Gods, they consider all other God's false, there is only one God. Hence, why they are described as monotheistic religions.
Listen I know on any standard Religious Studies course this is what is taught. If you had had a multiple choice test and you had to choose which label describes Christianity and Islam and the options were 1)Monotheism 2)Polytheism 3)Pantheism 4)Henotheism and 5)Atheism. 2-5 would be wrong answers.
You have shown me 83% of non-Mormon clergy do not accept Mormons as Christian.
It is both. The meaning of the word itself and how it is used e.g. "Her eyes froze him still" compared to "The peas are frozen" There are conventions in language to how meaning is decyphered. It is not infinitely ambiguous. If I asked you "bring me an orange" and you brought me a tomato, the defect is with your understanding and not the sentence.
I did not really see a massive contradiction here. I could just be taken to mean God knows exactly what you are thinking at a given time. What you are thinking now and what you will be thinking after undergoing a gruelling test could be totally different.
Also, here the passages are not contradictions, because they are by two different authors in two two different contexts.
Tribal identity is not what determines whether someone is Jewish.
The term Jew developed from Yehudi, meaning of the kingdom of Judah which had people from at least 2 and a half tribes. Thus Mordechai, one of the heroes of the festival of Purim is called, textually "Ish yehudi" and also "ish yemini" -- a Yehudi from the tribe of Benjamin. Can you show where, before that, the term Jew was used, and where the term "Israelitish" was used to refer to the faith or the national identity?As far as I can tell, initially the term Jew was strictly a patrilineal tribal identity. It referred to patrilineal descendants of Israel's son Judah. The faith and community was known as Israelitish. For example the son of the Israelitish woman and an Egyptian man ... Please show me the earliest clear use of the word Jew / Jewish to describe someone from another tribe in the Bible
So as far as I can tell, It was after the northern kingdom perished and the tribe of Judah was promised it will not (perish) that the term Jew/ Jewish began to refer to members of a nation with a king and its faith. so the idea of a Jewish (faith and member of a nation) evolved much later.
Perhaps this is why you are confused that Quraysh is a member of the Ishmaelites nation but not necessarilyIshmael s patrilineal descendant
The term Jew developed from Yehudi, meaning of the kingdom of Judah which had people from at least 2 and a half tribes. Thus Mordechai, one of the heroes of the festival of Purim is called, textually "Ish yehudi" and also "ish yemini" -- a Yehudi from the tribe of Benjamin. Can you show where, before that, the term Jew was used, and where the term "Israelitish" was used to refer to the faith or the national identity?
In the text, the term Yehudi is used 76 times to refer to someone from the tribe or nation of Yehudah. Are you trying to combine it with the idea of conversion?I did say, we don't see the term Yehudi being used to describe someone who isn't a member of that tribe before the northern kingdom was destroyed. Mordechai was after the northern kingdom was destroyed. Even then Mordechai wasn't a non Israelite.
Im sorry if I made it seem that an Israelite identity was a religious identity. I dont think ancients understood the concept of a religious identity outside a hereditary tribal id.
I have agreed that after the destruction of the northern kingdom, the term Yehudi was used to refer to more than just members of the tribe of Judah. However even in the case of Mordechai he is an Israelite who was under the covenant. so can I ask. where is the term first used in the Bible to describe a descendant of a non Israelite? Thanks