Do They Teach Anything In Institutes of Higher Learning?

[esmith]

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( ) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
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She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

 

[sayak83]

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( ) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
Source
She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

If all jobs pay well then the two jobs would be held by two people instead of one. So unemployment would decrease.

 

[esmith]

If all jobs pay well then the two jobs would be held by two people instead of one. So unemployment would decrease.

That is not the crux of the OP.

 

[Revoltingest]

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( ) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
Source
She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

The thing about school.....
Just as learning science doesn't cure religion,
learning economics doesn't cure socialist dreams.

 

[sayak83]

That is not the crux of the OP.

That seemed to be the point of your complaints.
European type socialist capitalism works quite well.

 

[esmith]

The thing about school.....
Just as learning science doesn't cure religion,
learning economics doesn't cure socialist dreams.

Question: Is real economics even taught?
Maybe I'm wrong but it would seem to me if one wants a degree in economics they should also have a real understanding of history. Probably wrong again.

 

[esmith]

That seemed to be the point of your complaints.
European type socialist capitalism works quite well.

So are you willing to live under say Sweden's type of socialism?
What America Can Learn from Sweden

 

[Revoltingest]

Question: Is real economics even taught?

Yes, it is.
But the couple of courses I took didn't relate to
emergent properties of large scale systems.

Maybe I'm wrong but it would seem to me if one wants a degree in economics they should also have a real understanding of history. Probably wrong again.

A friend who got up the PhD level said that the theoretical
models they built weren't very well connected to reality.
But this could be just where he went to school & when.
Btw, he was an avowed socialist.
But he worked in & retired from a private sector health
care analysis company.

 

[Quintessence]

This is inspiring me to make a topic about various misconceptions regarding education.

The long and the short of it is that having a degree - especially just a Bachelor's degree - doesn't mean you stop being a limited, flawed human person. You don't suddenly stop making mistakes, and you aren't suddenly granted topical omniscience. You don't magically loose all emotional/ideological philosophies and life experiences that shape your worldview either.

If this is supposed to be an argument against education, it is a poor one.

 

[Revoltingest]

So are you willing to live under say Sweden's type of socialism?
What America Can Learn from Sweden

The question is....
Does O'Casio favor "socialism" as defined, or "socialism" which is
actually capitalism with a social safety net (the Scandinavian model)?
I haven't seen her provide any detail.

 

[Altfish]

Ha! Ha1

She really has got the GOP wound up; how can they criticise her education when you have the likes of Cruz, Trump, creationists like Carson in your ranks - she is a breath of fresh air.

 

[ecco]

(of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong).

Certainly, your posts have not shown that she is wrong. Perhaps it is you who is clueless.

 

[esmith]

Certainly, your posts have not shown that she is wrong. Perhaps it is you who is clueless.

So, the employment figures are low because people have more than one job? Gee, even I know that is bunk, and I'm just a High School grad with over 20 years in the military.

 

[esmith]

Ha! Ha1

She really has got the GOP wound up; how can they criticise her education when you have the likes of Cruz, Trump, creationists like Carson in your ranks - she is a breath of fresh air.

and you believe what she says she wants will work?

 

[sun rise]

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( ) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
Source
She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

Yes, she said something stupid.

I take it you've never made a stupid mistake in your speech nor have any of those you admire? And what about the false statement the right holds to like revealed scripture that tax cuts pay for themselves? Will you excoriate those who claim that falsehood? http://www.crfb.org/blogs/do-tax-cuts-pay-themselves.

And what about the Liar in Chief's continual false statements? Are they OK because he's on the right?

 

[Woberts]

If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.

Oh, they do. It's become the defining sound of capitalism (late especially) to attempt to validate it's own existence by spreading propaganda and violence against Communist states, their leaders, and the ideology itself.
For example, there was the US sponsored Operation Condor, where commies and left wingers in general were executed for the crime of simply existing.
Don't forget the White Terror, as well.
As for propaganda, there's accusations of Stalin being anti-Semitic in an attempt to create a false equivalency between him and Hitler, there's the myth that the Holodomor was because of some kind of racial hatred Stalin had for Ukrainians, and there's McCarthy's narrative that you can't be a communist and a good American citizen.
There's also the rallying cry of 'godless communism' and 'capitalism is the only viable option'.
Eh, it gets old very quickly.

 

[esmith]

Oh, they do. It's become the defining sound of capitalism (late especially) to attempt to validate it's own existence by spreading propaganda and violence against Communist states, their leaders, and the ideology itself.
For example, there was the US sponsored Operation Condor, where commies and left wingers in general were executed for the crime of simply existing.
Don't forget the White Terror, as well.
As for propaganda, there's accusations of Stalin being anti-Semitic in an attempt to create a false equivalency between him and Hitler, there's the myth that the Holodomor was because of some kind of racial hatred Stalin had for Ukrainians, and there's McCarthy's narrative that you can't be a communist and a good American citizen.
There's also the rallying cry of 'godless communism' and 'capitalism is the only viable option'.
Eh, it gets old very quickly.

And what you and others, as in the above, does not get old?

 

[Revoltingest]

and you believe what she says she wants will work?

It did work.
It got her into office.

 

[Fool]

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( ) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
Source
She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

like it or not, socialism is on the rise among young adults

 

[Revoltingest]

like it or not, socialism is on the rise among young adults

I've seen it all before.
Young'ns have the luxury of believing all sorts of things.
But experience tempers the more outlandish ones.
Think it's bad now? The 60s were worse.