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Do They Teach Anything In Institutes of Higher Learning?

esmith

Veteran Member
And therefore that one example defines the entire range of what "socialist" means?

What do you infer about republican democracy from the name "the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?"
What do you infer about democrats from the DPRK.

Actually since the name Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk (DPKR) was adopted in 1948 could be because China was Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguót (Peoples Republic of China) and North Korea wanted to go one better than China:)
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So in all honesty how could you pose a question concerning "realness" of a subject if you've never attended a semester?
Have you ever served in the military, if not how could you pose any question dealing with the "realness" of the military; matter of fact how could anybody who has not served in the military ask a question dealing with the "realness" of the internal workings of the military?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Have you ever served in the military, if not how could you pose any question dealing with the military?

Asking a question out of curiosity or for a pursuit of knowledge is different than implying something as having value such as "realness" or saying something is not valuable. You've implied several things in your opinion as if you've attended college.

Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.

In the reference of the above, if you've never attended college how would it "seem" like anything or "lacking in anything" if you've never stepped foot on a college campus.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Asking a question out of curiosity or for a pursuit of knowledge is different than implying something as having value such as "realness" or saying something is not valuable. You've implied several things in your opinion as if you've attended college.



In the reference of the above, if you've never attended college how would it "seem" like anything or "lacking in anything" if you've never stepped foot on a college campus.
Hmm seems to me I was asking a question when I said
Question: Is real economics even taught?
Maybe I'm wrong but it would seem to me if one wants a degree in economics they should also have a real understanding of history. Probably wrong again.
So is it only you that can ask a question out of curiosity
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Hmm seems to me I was asking a question when I said

So is it only you that can ask a question out of curiosity

Sure you can ask questions but your presentation about the level of our education in conjunction with Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-cortez's education in economics when you yourself had never stepped foot on college is what I'm critiquing. I find judgment on that level comparable to a pro gamer trying to explain military strategy.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Sure you can ask questions but your presentation about the level of our education in conjunction with Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-cortez's education in economics when you yourself had never stepped foot on college is what I'm critiquing. I find judgment on that level comparable to a pro gamer trying to explain military strategy.
Sorry I offended your sensibilities.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Seems that education in our institutes of higher learning is either lacking or the students do not pay attention.
I really don't like to pick on the darling of the new left or the media ( :)) but it seems that their poster child, Ocasio-Cortez needs to go back to do a little research before making a fool of herself (of course her admires do not have a clue she is wrong). She is reported to have graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011 with a bachelor's degree in international relations and economics. Now one would think she would know that the unemployment rate is not predicated on the number of jobs a person holds. However in her interview with PBS said the unemployment figures are low because everyone has two jobs.
Source
She is also a avowed democratic socialist. Now I just wonder if our high schools and institutes of higher learning even teach world history, or even current history anymore. If they did it would seem that they would mention the failure of past socialist governments like the USSR and the current socialist government of Venezuela.
Oh well I guess they only learn what the supposed professors want to teach(?)

Great...

You take one socialist and blow it up to most of the left. And on top of that, you blame higher education as the source.

I'm guessing someone here could have benefited from "higher education."

There's much irony here to criticize education when it's clear that the OP is lacking such education to be able to criticize it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Great...

You take one socialist and blow it up to most of the left. And on top of that, you blame higher education as the source.

I'm guessing someone here could have benefited from "higher education."

There's much irony here to criticize education when it's clear that the OP is lacking such education to be able to criticize it.
He's just jelus of those of us who are more edumacated.
But even I have noticed that letters after one's name
doesn't always indicate cromulent reasoning.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
You take one socialist and blow it up to most of the left. And on top of that, you blame higher education as the source..
Yep, your all the same.
Take a look at your institutes of higher learning and tell me they are not a liberal/socialist mecca who couldn't poor **** out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel:eek:

I'm guessing someone here could have benefited from "higher education.".
Nah, I surpassed your idea of "higher education" for an education in the real world:p

There's much irony here to criticize education when it's clear that the OP is lacking such education to be able to criticize it.
Yep, I'm rude, crude, and socially unacceptable and those are my good points. You really don't want to get in the line of fire of my bad points:D



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Actually I think my APLSD is kicking in.
 
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youknowme

Whatever you want me to be.
Yep, your all the same.
Take a look at your institutes of higher learning and tell me they are not a liberal/socialist mecca who couldn't poor **** out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel:eek:


Nah, I surpassed your idea of "higher education" for an education in the real world:p


Yep, I'm rude, crude, and socially unacceptable and those are my good points. You really don't want to get in the line of fire of my bad points:D



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Actually I think my APLSD is kicking in.
Nearly every Republican in Congress has a college degree (if not all of them). The conservatives you vote for more often than not have a college education.

I think your hostility towards those with a higher education stems more from your own insecurities. If it upsets you that much go take some classes at the nearest community college.
 
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esmith

Veteran Member
Nearly every Republican in Congress has a college degree (if not all of them). The conservatives you vote for more often than not have a college education.

I think your hostility towards those with a higher education stems more from your own insecurities. If it upsets you that much go take some classes at the nearest community college.

You just made my day.
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suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Yep, your all the same.
Take a look at your institutes of higher learning and tell me they are not a liberal/socialist mecca who couldn't poor **** out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel:eek:


Nah, I surpassed your idea of "higher education" for an education in the real world:p


Yep, I'm rude, crude, and socially unacceptable and those are my good points. You really don't want to get in the line of fire of my bad points:D



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Actually I think my APLSD is kicking in.

Funny...
Many high value jobs tend to have a need on higher education. You know, jobs involving medicine, science, law. That is probably the correlation you were looking to paint with higher education.

The real world is still subjective to each person's day to day. If you're doing just fine in your neck of the woods without higher education then definitely, good for you. No need to **** on others who would have benefited from having higher education.

By the way, I swing moderately to the left, but I'm not a fan of #AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) either.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Funny...
Many high value jobs tend to have a need on higher education. You know, jobs involving medicine, science, law. That is probably the correlation you were looking to paint with higher education.

The real world is still subjective to each person's day to day. If you're doing just fine in your neck of the woods without higher education then definitely, good for you. No need to **** on others who would have benefited from having higher education.

By the way, I swing moderately to the left, but I'm not a fan of #AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) either.
I retired in 1997, I was 55. Does that answer your question about if I'm doing fine in my neck of the woods.

Yes I agree that an education in various fields,such as you mentioned is needed.
However, when we acquires a degree in a field that has little possibility of obtaining employment it is a waste of money.
I also think that a lot of high school kids are pushed into going to a college or university that really shouldn't go... They would be better of going to a trade school and not saddling themselves with a monstrous school loan.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I retired in 1997, I was 55. Does that answer your question about if I'm doing fine in my neck of the woods.

Yes I agree that an education in various fields,such as you mentioned is needed.
However, when we acquires a degree in a field that has little possibility of obtaining employment it is a waste of money.
I also think that a lot of high school kids are pushed into going to a college or university that really shouldn't go... They would be better of going to a trade school and not saddling themselves with a monstrous school loan.


Well, there is no "WIN" button. We all take risks in any venture. We just need to do our homework and ensure we can overcome our risks.

I went to my local college which was dirt cheap but the degree wasn't as prestigious as from other local schools like Stanford or Berkeley. My path was to settle for a lower paying new hire job, work hard and eventually catch up to an average salary. Years later, after I caught up, my degree didn't matter any more when searching for jobs. Companies only cared for work experience and how well you do in their interviews. My college degree afforded me the career track but didn't initially cripple me with high debt like some other colleges that you might have been referring to.

Just like anything else we purchase, we have to understand the value to cost before determining.

Some folks are dirty rich so paying tuition at Stanford or other private elite schools is a drop in the pond for them. It is what it is but just shows everyone's situation is different.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well, there is no "WIN" button. We all take risks in any venture. We just need to do our homework and ensure we can overcome our risks.

I went to my local college which was dirt cheap but the degree wasn't as prestigious as from other local schools like Stanford or Berkeley. My path was to settle for a lower paying new hire job, work hard and eventually catch up to an average salary. Years later, after I caught up, my degree didn't matter any more when searching for jobs. Companies only cared for work experience and how well you do in their interviews. My college degree afforded me the career track but didn't initially cripple me with high debt like some other colleges that you might have been referring to.

Just like anything else we purchase, we have to understand the value to cost before determining.

Some folks are dirty rich so paying tuition at Stanford or other private elite schools is a drop in the pond for them. It is what it is but just shows everyone's situation is different.
Sounds about right to me.
 
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