Do Voters Share the Blame for Trump?

[Stanyon]

And just before our cut and run from Syria, we bombed an ISIS base. They are no doubt salivating at the chance to run roughshod over the country again.
Iran is also thrilled at our cut and run. I don't see them as an existential danger to us, but they are not our friends.
We should support our friends.

At what point did anti-war liberals become pro -war interventionists? I have no doubt if a certain president removed the U.S. from Vietnam years earlier he would have been praised as a hero.

 

[youknowme]

Not if their moral compass does not align with my own. I don't want some yahoo pushing his/her/its sense of fricken morality, period. I just want them to do their bloody jobs. Is that asking too much?

I am willing to bet that your "moral compass" more or less aligns with the greater majority of the people on this planet.

 

[YmirGF]

I am willing to bet that your "moral compass" more or less aligns with the greater majority of the people on this planet.

Frankly, this strong atheist gets worried when the self-righteous start talking about morality,

 

[Cooky]

Yes if you are Trump supporter you definetly have to seperate your religion from your politics because Trump has nothing to do with what any religion teaches except maybe scientology??

That's the way it should be.

 

[youknowme]

That's the way it should be.

So then you agree that Trump is scrum?

 

[YmirGF]

So you are assuming that I am religious? That is interesting.

Interesting, I was simply replying to your comment. At no point did I mention you by name or even infer that the barb was directed at you. Do you have a guilty conscience? It was a general global comment. Sue me.

 

[Cooky]

So you are assuming that I am religious?

I figure you're not. But that's no excuse to inflict moral-like values into government just because you don't have any other box to place them in.

 

[Cooky]

So then you agree that Trump is scrum?

I have no opinion of the man. All I know is that the actions he takes are helping this country.

 

[Cooky]

We also could really use a wall right now, but the left continue injecting their moral values into politics.

 

[columbus]

We also could really use a wall right now, but the left continue injecting their moral values into politics.

What do we need a wall for? How about we start vetting as many foreign workers as we are willing to hire, then prosecute the illegal employers?
Tom

 

[youknowme]

Interesting, I was simply replying to your comment. At no point did I mention you by name or even infer that the barb was directed at you. Do you have a guilty conscience? It was a general global comment. Sue me.

Sorry, you quoted me, so I figured you were talking to me.

Anyways, it is commonly accepted that human behavior is the result of a combination of genetics, epigenetics, development and environment. The problem is figuring out how much of what and in what ways; however, I think it is likely what we consider "morals" has some foundation in our genes and physiology. Which is why it is not surprising that different cultures across the world ended up with similar common laws. No supernatural explanation needed. Now, I can't prove that, but I think it is a reasonable enough assumption, which is why I think probabilistically you are more likely to be morally aligned with the greater population than not, granted with some variation.

 

[Cooky]

What do we need a wall for? How about we start vetting as many foreign workers as we are willing to hire, then prosecute the illegal employers?
Tom

Because prospective illegal employees use fake ID's.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2009/08/31/daily51.html
Arpaio says the raids are conducted under the 2007 Legal Arizona Workers Act and a federal 287(g) agreement, which allows the MCSO to arrest illegal immigrants. Arpaio said it is tough to prove businesses knowingly hire illegal immigrants who show fake IDs, but will arrest suspected workers during the raids. “It’s hard to hook the employer,” Arpaio said.

 

[youknowme]

I have no opinion of the man. All I know is that the actions he takes are helping this country.

I don't think you are being honest.

 

[youknowme]

We also could really use a wall right now, but the left continue injecting their moral values into politics.

We already have four walls, all ready to go for Trump.

 

[YmirGF]

Sorry, you quoted me, so I figured you were talking to me. I actually still think that.

Anyways, it is commonly accepted that human behavior is the result of a combination of genetics, epigenetics, development and environment. The problem is figuring out how much of what and in what ways; however, I think it is likely what we consider "morals" has some foundation in our genes and physiology. Which is why it is not surprising that different cultures across the world ended up with similar common laws. No supernatural explanation needed. Now, I can't prove that, but I think it is a reasonable enough assumption, which is why I think probabilistically you are more likely to be morally aligned with the greater population than not, granted with some variation.

I could rent you a backhoe if you wanted to keep digging!

 

[Revoltingest]

I particularly blame Democrat primary voters.
They're the ones who gave us this unholy choice.

Of course, this isn't "true" or any such foolishness.
It's just fun to hang responsibility for Trump's win on
those who hate him the most. But they still should
feel a little guilty.

 

[Revoltingest]

Interesting, I was simply replying to your comment. At no point did I mention you by name or even infer imply that the barb was directed at you. Do you have a guilty conscience? It was a general global comment. Sue me.

Did I fix your post....or did I misread it?

 

[youknowme]

I could rent you a backhoe if you wanted to keep digging!

You'll be repeating me later on.

 

[YmirGF]

Did I fix your post....or did I misread it?

Yes. That is MUCH better.

 

[youknowme]

I think it is hard to avoid the fact that the voters are at least partially to blame for Trump. In what ways and how much is probably not something we can ever agree on. However, I think an end to the Electoral College would be a move in the right direction.