I like this site. It has the humor of Wesboro Baptist Church, but with talk about the history of heat engines.
It is a parody site, right?
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Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?
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It is a parody site, right?
Phil25
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This is a parody site Landover Baptist | Where the Worthwhile Worship. Unsaved Unwelcome
Yeah, I was just insulting that other site because so many astounding views inhabit it.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The only reason I'm participating in this thread is to await the incoming change to the spelling of that term. As soon as it is changed by the mods/admins, I shall desist and be OCD-happy. Yay !
Ya know, if you send me enough money, I can probably find a capable technician that can fix this! :bounce
xkatz
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So basically the gist I get is...
It's not bigotry to HAVE a (religious) culture, but it is bigotry to want to PRESERVE it- especially so if you are European whitey or a Jew. And it's bigoted to not see the rules and customs of other (religious) communities as equally applicable as yours to people in your respective community. Yeah, sounds very "multicultural" and "pluralistic" and not at all like culturicide via cultural Marxism. And then people on the left of the political spectrum are scratching their heads wondering why right-wing views have begun to gain traction amongst Jews and Europeans
It's not bigotry to HAVE a (religious) culture, but it is bigotry to want to PRESERVE it- especially so if you are European whitey or a Jew. And it's bigoted to not see the rules and customs of other (religious) communities as equally applicable as yours to people in your respective community. Yeah, sounds very "multicultural" and "pluralistic" and not at all like culturicide via cultural Marxism. And then people on the left of the political spectrum are scratching their heads wondering why right-wing views have begun to gain traction amongst Jews and Europeans
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Hehe. I'm down to go half. Do we have terms ?
75/25?
Hey, whaddya expect-- I'm Jewish!
Poeticus
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And I'm Indian. You really expect me to go about this whole thing without a bargaining war ? You must be out 'ya mind, son !
And 40/60 should do the trick. The 60 being your half.
dantech
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Can I be the technician?
Metis, I'll give you 15% of what I charge, under the table. We Jews need to stick together!
Wirey
Fartist
Thanks! Does that come with cash?
If you genuinely don't understand my point, I think we're good.
Levite
Higher and Higher
So basically the gist I get is...
It's not bigotry to HAVE a (religious) culture, but it is bigotry to want to PRESERVE it- especially so if you are European whitey or a Jew. And it's bigoted to not see the rules and customs of other (religious) communities as equally applicable as yours to people in your respective community. Yeah, sounds very "multicultural" and "pluralistic" and not at all like culturicide via cultural Marxism. And then people on the left of the political spectrum are scratching their heads wondering why right-wing views have begun to gain traction amongst Jews and Europeans
Yup. This, exactly. It's the old song of "We will tolerate Jews, of course: so long as Jews become just like us and stop being so Jewy."
Wirey
Fartist
No, we will tolerate (and I actually am a big fan of the state of Israel continuing to exist) Jews who are okay with live and let live. Claiming being born a Jew obligates you to that form of worship is no different than the disfellowship crap the JWs throw around.
Is this really that hard to understand? If someone doesn't believe, they are allowed to quit. If that's a problem, then you're a bigot.
CynthiaCypher
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Preach on! The imposition of religious belief upon someone who has rejected it is wrong in so many ways.
xkatz
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Yes they are allowed to quit- to be a part of and partake in the Jewish community is generally a voluntary thing (and to an extent always has been). But that doesn't mean we should compromise our views on such actions for the sake of feel-good morality. And as such quitting doesn't change their consideration as a Jew by Jews.
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dantech
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What you don't understand is that no one will shoot a bullet to their heads if they "quit". We just don't believe that it's actually possible to quit. But this person who left Judaism, obviously doesn't believe in the same stuff as us, so why does it matter to them (or you) if we still think they are Jewish?
dantech
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We don't impose anything on this person. I don't even know her, and will most likely never speak to her. If she believes she is a Muslim, then so be it. To me, however, she is just a Jew who doesn't practice any Judaism. I'm not imposing on her anything.
Wirey
Fartist
Which was my point with the Nazi blood law comment. If I don't believe in Jesus Christ, I'm not a Christian, regardless of my bloodline. Judaism is different? If I wear a yarmuckle, it's like that spider that bit Peter Parker? Suddenly my DNA is all menorah-shaped?
Actually, that would be pretty cool. But, I still think it's bullpucky, and if you think being born into a group based on belifs is permanent, you're wrong. Again, my opinion.
CynthiaCypher
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That is imposing, you are setting upon her a definition she does not abide by. That is imposition. She is a Muslim practicing Islam period. She is not pretending to be a Muslim, she is not just merely believing she is a Muslim, she is in fact a Muslim. The facts are,she is a Muslim. You are the one who is doing the believing not her. I am just sticking to the facts.
Pretty much :yes:
But you're using a different set of facts.
We're all really objecting to each other's "facts".
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