Outside of the house! I would have thought that was obvious. You cannot look after a baby or young child whilst driving a digger can you.
I am not saying you don't work! You work, but there should be separation in the genders. And no, before you say it, you can still come out of the house and ask what that big bright think is in the sky.
No you can actually. A young child might go to Kindergarten/Prep (school) during the day, when the woman drives her digger. In this way she does not miss a single second of the kid's life. Or perhaps she works nights, when the kid is sound asleep and thus the kid does not realize her missing presence.
Also workplaces are actually required by law to have paid maternity (and for some business paternity) leave. People in our modern world still do acknowledge the importance of the mother/father and child bond and the responsibilities that go with it. So women and these days even men take off time from work, whilst still getting an income allowing them such a luxury, to spend precious and valuable time with their infant. But again, you can't feed your kids on lollypops and sunshine. So often it's back to work for either or both parents after whatever period of time they can afford or want off work, so their kid won't starve to death. (What evil people, amirite?) Some women return to work after a few months, some a few years. It's different for different people, because of different circumstances they have to live around.
Oh I see, it's HER kid is it. How enlightening.
Well I was specifically referring to women forced to work to pay for their kid's life. In whatever circumstance they have to deal with. Hence "her" kid.I should have been more specific, you're right. My bad.
But since men in your worldview have to be in the workforce outside of the home, presumably not filling the role of houseparent 24/7 like a woman "has to" because of their "busy busy manly schedules" they suddenly want the shared credit too? You want the credit, step up like you want mothers to do and take care of the kid as well. Be a damned parent. Then they can call the kid theirs. Eh?
Typical over eggareation from a woman in this subject. You just can't talk about it can you. To you, if your not working and just bringing up children, your nothing, perhaps less than nothing. I have no idea why you would think that. Perhaps men have made this rod for their own back not valuing you when you did use to keep your role, which you now don't.
Because women are more than baby making machines who take care of the household chores .If a woman chooses to be a housewife and is perfectly content with that particular life, then I will throw her a party and celebrate her happiness with her. But that's not what every single woman in the world wants. Nor should every single woman be confined to such a structure simply because she's a woman/feminine. Like you are talking about. That's what I take issue with. That you want us all to belong to some specific role for women based on nothing more than being born without two Y chromosomes (speaking generally of course. Some women are actually born with two YYs but that's another discussion for another day.)
Also, trust me, I know working mothers, I don't really think I want to work and have kids at the same time. It looks utterly exhausting.
Some women want to examine their favorite Scientific/philosophical/academic discipline, some might want to scale a freaking mountain, some women want to write a book, some might want to be a mechanic, some might just want to work in a library selling old books. Whatever.
What you are suggesting is that we all scrap such plans, such lives and settle down into out "female" roles as housewife and baby maker. Because by Jesus, that's what we're "supposed" to do. Yeah, well maybe we as people want to do other things before, during or even after being all maternal. Maybe some of us don't even want to do that until we are like mature or are ready. Or find the right guy to share that with. (Or girl. Whatever.) And because we don't want to be all maternal for quite some time, we don't want to sit on our thumbs until such a time as we think we are ready to have kids. Did you even think about that?
Some women might never want to have kids (or can't have them even.) Maybe they fulfill their lives in other ways. Mentoring children at the PCYC or being an enthusiastic and passionate teacher or I don't know, explore the seven wonders of the world. There's a whole big world out there and women, being human beings and all that, have their own aspirations and dreams that does not always include tunnel vision towards having kids and settling down into being all housewives.
You mean they would misunderstand it as well I suppose. Either way we are the masculine and feminine of God and as such we are supposed to do what is pleasing to him, and in that way benefit us.
No I mean they would call you all sorts of colorful language and would most likely accuse you of being a backwards ******* who belongs in the 1700s. Along with your notions of masculinity, femininity, humanity and genders which are so outdated even the likes of Shakespeare would tell you to go back in time to find a suitable and more agreeable audience. Amongst other sentiments.
And maybe God created a woman with a vast amount of potential intelligence. Maybe that's the biggest strength God gave to that particular woman. Intelligence isn't inherently masculine or feminine, after all. So would it not be prudent for that particular woman to actually achieve something with her God given intelligence that betters mankind overall? Like say revolutionize medicine? Or is she to reject such a gift bestowed upon her by God by squandering it by just marrying young and raising kids instead? Because dammit, she's feminine and her place is in the home, raising kids. Not in the workforce actually using whatever strengths God gave to her to better herself or other people.
Seriously. What do you think would please God more? Squandering His gifts? Or using what He gave you to do something actually worthwhile in this wold? Something that could help thousands, or inspire generations or (insert great achievement here.) Hmm? Childbearing is all awesome and such, but there are other achievements in this world, accomplished by both men and women, which helps mankind overall as well. Medical discoveries, inspirational art/texts to name a few. And those achievements are often immortal. Not saying one is better than the other, just saying.
I also don't think God can be restricted to such primitive endeavors as to just making men for the sole purpose of working for a living (a relatively new construct, just FYI) and women just there so someone can raise the kids.
He's surely more complex in his creative choices than that! Or else he's awful bloody primitive, imo. (Oh yeah I went there.) But that's just my personal interpretation. So....whatever.
Thank you for the threat. Just shows again that you cannot discuss it and that you have ungodly values. And that is probably half of the problem. Violence and aggression is seen as a plus in the world is it not. Being peaceable and having good interpersonal skills is not.
Actually that's just me being a jovial Australian. You shouldn't take such sentiments all that seriously from me. We Aussies just sort of talk roughly and sort of menacing, but we don't often actually mean it. Also you don't know me or my religious affiliation or any such values I hold. Nor do I know of yours.
Again you show your insecurities that if you are not outside in the man's world, you are somehow of no value. Very telling I think.
Perhaps if you read a little bit more carefully you might see I am not saying what you think I am saying. Women should work, but there should be a separation of the genders. And their primary goal should be bringing up the human race so we don't have gangs and violence and you so called trucker friends with their aggressive outspoken rude violent ways. That is the very thing I am fighting again/....falling on deaf ears of course.
And again, you fail to see that we are more than that. We are more than some arbitrary "feminine" roles from a hundred years ago. We live here in the now. We have our own thoughts and dreams. It's all about choice for us. Some of us choose not to live in the house and raise kids. Some of us choose to share the household responsibilities with our respective partners. Some of us do choose to live happily as a housewife. But to use your terminology that sentiment falls on deaf ears. What we are saying is that we want the choice to live up to whatever job we happen to aspire to. And not be bound to a particular job just because we were born female.