Do you as a Muslim believe in women's equality?

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to-smart -jay-i am wait your answer??????

I am talking aboutideologycalledIslam!!!!
Thefollowingteachings!!!
1. the share of women = 1
2. the share of men = 2
3. This is Islamic inheritance law??
4. does no justice in it??
I am talking aboutideologycalledIslam!!!
1. the testimony of women is not acceptable in the Islamic courts
2. two women only
3. why this discrimination??
I am also at the heart of the matter
In Islamic law
!!
1. women deficient mind???
2. also in religion??
I am also in the heart of Islamic Sharia??
Womenequalstools
Women=faeces
I am also at the heart of your law, Islamic
1-hit women in Islamic law
I also speak of Islamic Sharia???
1. women have the right to divorce???
2. women requests the judicial separation??
The question remains
Is thereequalityin thisIslamic law??
Wait foryou toanswer

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

What is the point to all of that?

These points
Confirmtherights ofwoman
And respect
And also
Todeclarewomenfullmind
Not as Islam are underrepresented in the mind

 

[Baladas]

Some of the arguments on this thread are so backwards that we might as well be arguing whether or not the Universe is geocentric.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Governments live their with their heads in the sand and only care about how much money they can make. They have no idea what it's like to live below middle class nor do they care. And even if they do, they go from being idealistic youngsters demanding change to old world suits and ties, agreeing with the higher classes. They are out of touch with their own people and too corrupt to give a ****. (Some more than others.) They lie in order to gain power and slander each other to keep it. They are certainly not idiots, but they don't always do what's best for their voters. And yes, I am aware they have to tread carefully in international relations. But I am speaking of how they run their OWN countries, not how friendly they can appear to others. They break promises, they line their own pockets, they sing sweet songs to the voters and then tax them as much as they are able to get away with.
Call it disillusionment, call it inexperience, call it distrust fostered by reading one too many dystopian novels. I don't care. **** the Government, I say. Necessary bloody evil, in my books.



I am speaking of society's view, not just my own. If you think that a male being a capable father makes them "weak" well that doesn't speak well about your views about parenthood in general, sir.



Valued by people, actually. Homemakers haven't disappeared, you know? They still exist and they will tell you the same thing. Stop acting as though every woman has "abandoned" the home altogether and left it to men just so they can work. They haven't. Women still routinely either quit or take time off from their job to raise kids. And did it ever cross your mind that many men may just want to be a larger part of their kids' lives regardless? Paternal instinct is a thing, you know?




That is sex, actually. Like I said, gender is not the same as sex in Academia. There's academic language then there's layman language. In our language, gender is often conflated with sex. In Academia they are two entirely separate words with two separate meanings. Don't get mad because Scientists have differing connotations with the words they use. That's just what the disciplines are like.

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[TashaN]

I've never asked a Muslim if they believe in women's equality?

How do you define women equality? Do you mean that both men and women should have equal salaries, that both get pregnant, that both are degraded and used by media equally?

 

[SomeRandom]

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Stronger gender? What type of strength are you taking about specifically? Physical? Might equals right? Physical strength does not implicitly imply superiority. Otherwise we'd be living on the Planet of the Apes or bowing down to every elephant we happen to come across. They are a hell of a lot stronger than all of us, sir. So does that make them better than us?
Brain strength? Depends on the person. A male brain is not inherently superior nor is the female brain. Emotional strength? Well that can't be right, I mean men seem to consider expressing emotions as "weak."

Yes, as the old adage goes, we are women living in a man's world. That world, my friend, continues to change and grow. Best be careful, sir. Lest you get left behind by it.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

How do you define women equality? Do you mean that both men and women should have equal salaries, that both get pregnant, that both are degraded and used by media equally?

1. equality of laws
2. equality of social education
3. equal rights
4. the equality duties
5. repeal all laws which call for the superiority of men over women
6. Islam rejects the equality
7. here on Earth to deprive them of these rights
8. Islam teachings encourage beating women
9. in heaven or paradise as Muslims believe
Men havenymphs
10. women are denied the right to sexual pleasure

 

[Koldo]

How do you define women equality? Do you mean that both men and women should have equal salaries, that both get pregnant, that both are degraded and used by media equally?

This answer says more about your view than you intended to.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Stronger gender? What type of strength are you taking about specifically? Physical? Might equals right? Physical strength does not implicitly imply superiority. Otherwise we'd be living on the Planet of the Apes or bowing down to every elephant we happen to come across. They are a hell of a lot stronger than all of us, sir. So does that make them better than us?

The idea was that this discussion (rant) went over to that thread where it belongs, madam.
Men are physically stronger in general than women and more adept at solving mechanical type problems and providing for the family. Now you know that don't you.

Brain strength? Depends on the person. A male brain is not inherently superior nor is the female brain. Emotional strength? Well that can't be right, I mean men seem to consider expressing emotions as "weak."

Men are emotionally stronger as well.

Yes, as the old adage goes, we are women living in a man's world.

At least we agree on something. I wonder if you meant it?

That world, my friend, continues to change and grow. Best be careful, sir. Lest you get left behind by it.

It would not bother me if I were left behind. And the fact that it changes is no sign that it is for the better.
Also the dumping of children for someone else to bring up, or even the elderly being dumped because women fail to carry out your work. The excuse for this is, 'I want to'. Some excuse. Perhaps you should look at the bigger picture and stop ignoring the damage women do. This supposed changing world might well change back. What then? Do we say, the world is changing women, bet get used to it lest you get left behind? I'm sure that would go down well.

 

[Robert.Evans]

These points
Confirmtherights ofwoman
And respect
And also
Todeclarewomenfullmind
Not as Islam are underrepresented in the mind

I don't understand all of that. But you spoke of womens rights. Why? What rights are you speaking of?

 

[Treks]

Thanks for your honesty.

I can't help but to resent patriarchal constructs that confine women to specific gender roles. Though, I respect any woman who chooses such station for herself. I also understand that some nations/cultures are too primitive to yield the type of opportunity that I'm accustomed to in my country.



Thank you.

Opportunity, or are we just forced into the workforce to double the nations productivity?

I wouldn't be able to become a mother any time in the recent past, or the near future, because we simply cannot afford it.

And those women who do choose to become mothers in our Western culture often have to leave our children in the care of child care workers so we can go back to work once the maternity leave is exhausted to earn enough money to support the lifestyle we're accustomed to.

Is that ideal?

 

[dawny0826]

Opportunity, or are we just forced into the workforce to double the nations productivity?

I wouldn't be able to become a mother any time in the recent past, or the near future, because we simply cannot afford it.

And those women who do choose to become mothers in our Western culture often have to leave our children in the care of child care workers so we can go back to work once the maternity leave is exhausted to earn enough money to support the lifestyle we're accustomed to.

Is that ideal?

I'm not sure that I'd attribute these concerns to patriarchy or gender inequality at least not within the context of the discussions had within this particular thread.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I'm not sure that I'd attribute these concerns to patriarchy or gender inequality at least not within the context of the discussions had within this particular thread.

I think she means that although patriarchy is generally not wanted, it allows women that do not work to still live normally without being forced (or having no choice but) to work by the nation (the culture maybe), that they can choose to become mothers anytime they want, and once they manage to become mothers, they can actually enjoy the presence of their children with them, taking care of them better than any nanny and also without worrying for anything out of the family boundaries while the effects of pregnancy are not over yet.

I'm not really trying to add anything here, I just think that's what she means. I hope she corrects me if I'm wrong.

 

[illykitty]

Opportunity, or are we just forced into the workforce to double the nations productivity?

I wouldn't be able to become a mother any time in the recent past, or the near future, because we simply cannot afford it.

And those women who do choose to become mothers in our Western culture often have to leave our children in the care of child care workers so we can go back to work once the maternity leave is exhausted to earn enough money to support the lifestyle we're accustomed to.

Is that ideal?

I agree, it really isn't.

A better system would be that one person's salary (either male or female) would be enough to meet all of the needs of at least a small family. Since I think people should be able to decide who stays at home (I imagine you agree). It's better than patriarchy but better also than what we have now.

Although I don't want children, if I did, it wouldn't be possible without me working full time. My husband's salary is enough for us and a cat...

But a child is one more person to feed and clothe, then there's toys/books, school, activities, etc. All of that costs a lot! And most people want the best for their children, for them to have the best shot at having a good life... It's really stressing just thinking about it. Your choices can impact their whole lives. Honestly I don't know how people do it, being a parent sounds really hard.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Our understanding of women has changed a lot in the five centuries. Their average lifespans have more than doubled, and far fewer women and children die in childbirth. Its no longer necessary for every woman to try and bear children, and in truth they have proven to be very beneficial in the education system, government, manufacturing, the service sector, IT etc. They are far more flexible and intelligent than was generally thought only a century ago. In addition they have an important contribution to make to political decisions, and this above all would have surprised most men in the past In the past is where we used to live, but now that more knowledge has appeared we can use that knowledge for the benefit of all people.

Its no surprise at all, considering how much has changed, that people are rethinking the female and the male roles.

 

[dawny0826]

I think she means that although patriarchy is generally not wanted, it allows women that do not work to still live normally without being forced (or having no choice but) to work by the nation (the culture maybe), that they can choose to become mothers anytime they want, and once they manage to become mothers, they can actually enjoy the presence of their children with them, taking care of them better than any nanny and also without worrying for anything out of the family boundaries while the effects of pregnancy are not over yet.

I'm not really trying to add anything here, I just think that's what she means. I hope she corrects me if I'm wrong.

I can understand how economical concerns and realities can have negate impact on a woman's pursuit for children and the ability to stay out of the workforce and stay home with children, if that's what she desires.

I, personally, see greater benefit to an equal opportunity construct vs. a patriarchal construct, where a woman has the ability to make the choices that she sees fit for herself and/or with a partner to realize personal and career goals.

There are many women in western culture who value having the ability to both rear children and meet professional goals. Patriarchy often compartmentalizes women into a stereotypical box, making the latter challenging if not, impossible.

If a woman wants to live under patriarchy in her home - more power to her. I don't want that mindset continuing to bleed into the lives of those who reject it.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I can understand how economical concerns and realities can have negate impact on a woman's pursuit for children and the ability to stay out of the workforce and stay home with children, if that's what she desires.

I, personally, see greater benefit to an equal opportunity construct vs. a patriarchal construct, where a woman has the ability to make the choices that she sees fit for herself and/or with a partner to realize personal and career goals.

There are many women in western culture who value having the ability to both rear children and meet professional goals. Patriarchy often compartmentalizes women into a stereotypical box, making the latter challenging if not, impossible.

If a woman wants to live under patriarchy in her home - more power to her. I don't want that mindset continuing to bleed into the lives of those who reject it.

I agree

The right thing to do in anything is to be moderate and never go extreme. Both on the people's side and the culture's.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally cannot understand how anyone cannot realize that women are equal to men ??.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I agree

The right thing to do in anything is to be moderate and never go extreme. Both on the people's side and the culture's.

Write to us the position of Islam
You are a Muslim
Is Islam believes in equality
Gave us proof

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to -smart -guy
Why is the distinction between men and women in inheritance law ??
Why do you think women are lacking in their minds ??
Why put the Koran equal women with feces ??
Why Koran allows the writer to strike women ??
Why do men enjoy Balihuriaat in Paradise
While women are deprived of this pleasure ??
These questions are important
The ones we know the position of Islam, women