Do You Believe in God?

[viole]

Well my friend, I hope you don't put much trust in certain scientific disciplines, because several key theories that seem designed to bring theories of the universes origins back to the sterile and exclusionary halls (labyrinths?) of science. These theories of how the universe began (it didn't begin, its eternal they say) do not contain even one theistic implication! In fact they even seem to gleefully conclude God is not needed to explain stuff...(they hope) Well well I thought the first time I read Hawkins new theory that eliminates Gid, God or anything remotely metaphysical. However one of the most reverred new theory of a godless creation is the MWI. The easiest way to highlight whats wrong with this theory is that iy is a freakin' silly piece of crap that insults our intelligence. Yes I am speaking of the many worlds interpretation/theory. I cant candy coat that awful bit of anti-wisdom! Whoever said excreta logs are polish resistant must of been thinking that the MWI looks like a log of excreta. The theory ijs not fixable, just like stupid isn't fixable. really all kidding aside, the MWI requires massive faith to believe. Want an example of an MWI infearance? Here goes, according to the MWI every conceivable or imaginable event or thing, everything and I mean everything like Dalmer and ted bundy get married after they are raised from the dead not only can happen they MUST happen. So my friend science tells us evertthing will sooner or later happen. Oh Yesssss, if thre MWI is correct you just might get to see a real tooth fairy and that freakin' Goose! You will believe in all those childhood apparitions and others exist! well, thats the truth according to SCIENCE ! Yeah give me some more of that stuff! Really now, those naive souls that measure their own reality (and sanity I suspect) from what the SCIENTIFIC tells them shouldn't beat up on me I and other Christians that mold their reality from the absolute rock of Gids/Gods truth.

What does that have anything to do with my (stolen) quote "I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose"?

Can you expand on that a bit?

How can I compress that? Probably the most comprssed definition of phylosophical or metaphysical naturalism is the rejection of any form of teleology. There are no whys in naturalism, only hows.

Do you mean Z Ibrahimovic? If yes, Isn't he catholic? Lol, too bad

I thought he was a Muslim, as the Bosnian origin and the name suggest. Or atheist, as his citizenship suggests. I might be wrong, tho.

God bless this forum and those killed in the alternative lifestyle nightclub shooting by a radical Islamic fool~

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Ciao

- viole

 

[jeager106]

Let me ask a question, who created God?

Humans created "god". In fact humans created many gods.
Take your pick.
As to a "Creator of the Universe" having a beginning?
I haven't a clue.
When did this universe "begin"?
The Big Bang? Where did the big bang come from? I dunno.
Has the void of space always been the void of space?
Probably.
Soooooo we humans seem to search for meaning, definition, reasons.
When early man reached out to touch the stars in the night sky perhaps
it was an easy and simple thing to conclude some Power other than humans
made it so.
Before mental illness was understood people thought the sufferer was "possessed"
by "evil spirits".
Having 3 ex-wives I tend to believe that.
I also understand the ex-wives tend to believe that about me!

 

[Orbit]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

Not in the way you're thinking. I believe in something more like Brahman.

 

[jeager106]

God's name? (just to get a bit off topic)
I Am that I Am (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, ehyeh ašer ehyeh [ehˈje aˈʃer ehˈje]) is the common English translation (JPSamong others) of the response God used in the Hebrew Bible when Moses asked for his name (Exodus 3:14).

That definition seems to indicate that "God" (insert your concept) has always been.
Understanding that concept is like trying to understand that the void of space
has always been.
Huh? Wha'd he say?
Anyone want to take a trip with me to another universe?

 

[jeager106]

I read someplace that early man reached for fruit in a tree and was satisfied.
When early man reached for a star in the night sky and couldn't reach it
"god" was invented to explain why that fruit could not be touched.
Perhaps stars are fruits of "god".
Hey! I LIKE THAT.

 

[arthra]

Thank you. It's by fluke I wound up here. My intentions were to start another "Message Board" at Beliefnet.com after being away for more than 7 years, only to find they revised the site, took out all log-in and administrative abilities, and I couldn't find a place where I could found and administer another popping group. I thought it was my calling but I guess the internet doesn't agree.

Yes... I miss the old "beliefnet" myself... I was pretty involved with it for awhile.

 

[Agondonter]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

Gads. Another anthropomorphizing atheist.

 

[Milton Platt]

NO


Total lack of evidence for any higher being.
I think the Big Bang is a good explanation of the start of the universe, what came before that...if that is a meaningful question...I don't know.

Let me ask a question, who created God?[/QUOT

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

No belief in any supernatural deity.
No evidence to support such an extreme proposition
Not believing is the null position. I do not believe in a god because no convincing evidence has been provided to me to support such a belief. It is nonsensical to believe in things before you have adequate grounds to believe. Otherwise, the starting point would be to believe in virtually everything. I don't postulate that there can be no gods, but I do reject other's claims to know such things exist.
If a god existed, there would be no need for apologetics. That is why you do not have people practicing apologetics for the existence of the sun, or Mars, or whether gravity works.

 

[VioletVortex]

I believe in Satan. I respect Satan greatly. He is the center of a force within nature that he created. He also created the God within man. The God within man is held down by Abrahamism, but some break free. The God within man is the force of consciousness and free will, a separation from other influences.

 

[Sabour]

If you do, then how come?

Through Logic, through feeling, through sensing, through the heart

What do you call him?

Allah

S God a "him" or a "her"?

Neither, No gender

And how many are there according to your belief?

The Only One

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

No.

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

• No evidence, no way to verify, no feedback from the senses, no way to detect.
• All of the accounts of "God(s)" by humans sound like silliness and foolishness to me. I'm not intending offense in that statement - it's just 100% true. And I follow my intuition on this one.
• I've never had any problems in my life that I felt needed solved by "God(s)". I don't feel a "need" or that there is some "hole" needing filled. Again - those kinds of things sound like foolishness and waste to me. Why force myself to believe when it serves absolutely no purpose?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

To be honest, the people I know that DO believe are the ones that seem to have greater issues, problems, and complaints in their lives. And the jury is still out as to whether the first is a symptom of the second or vice versa. That is - whether or not people who have all sorts of problems in their lives tend to want to believe in God to ease their suffering, or whether belief in God causes you to fall under suffering - because you either leave "too much" to your God(s) to handle and don't take care of business yourself, or you simply end up complaining about all your problems and lamenting them because things seem so "unfair" (as you wonder "isn't God on my side?"), possibly allowing yourself to slide down a slippery slope of depression and insecurity, and all the while your problems and suffering are mounting.

Maybe it's neither... though as the religious go on and on about "witnessing" - the above paragraph is what I have witnessed all too often - believers complaining about how life is so hard, and honestly having quite a bit to complain about - a lot of them for good reason - I'm not saying they haven't suffered. But in the end, I don't believe they're looking at the "problem" from the right angle. There are times I'd like to pretend my problems away too - but then I remember who needs to be at the helm.

 

[Muffled]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

I believe in Yahweh embodied in Jesus.

I believe my beliefs are based on knowledge and experience.

I believe God is neither male nor female in His natural state, male in Jesus, male and female in the Paraclete. He most often represents Himself as Male.

I believe there is only one who is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

 

[Muffled]

I read someplace that early man reached for fruit in a tree and was satisfied.
When early man reached for a star in the night sky and couldn't reach it
"god" was invented to explain why that fruit could not be touched.
Perhaps stars are fruits of "god".
Hey! I LIKE THAT.

I believe that is about as delusional as thinking one can reach a star.

I believe God made himself known long before the creation of Adam and Eve.

 

[jeager106]

I believe that is about as delusional as thinking one can reach a star.

I believe God made himself known long before the creation of Adam and Eve.

Nice post but aren't you taking this way too seriously?

 

[Sister Cyber]

Yes... I miss the old "beliefnet" myself... I was pretty involved with it for awhile.

I think the Administrative team hated on us. In 3 months the group I created had over a thousand members and was growing daily, literally. Lots of controversial topics and flame wars, banning and reinstating. Then they did the first transition and turned our group into a non-existent person's profile. It was ridiculous, they said it was a mistake and claimed they couldn't reverse what they did in the tyransition. A crock of boogersnot, ha!

I believe in Satan.

Satan isn't God, or a god, is he?

believe God is neither male nor female

Could God be both?

 

[Muffled]

Nice post but aren't you taking this way too seriously?

I believe there is a common misconception coming from irrational reasoning. It is true that some men invented gods. That tends to get generalized into all gods are invented but that is a logical fallacy of reasoning from the particular to the general.

Sorry about the knee jerk reaction. I can see now that you were not all that serious about it.

 

[Muffled]

I think the Administrative team hated on us. In 3 months the group I created had over a thousand members and was growing daily, literally. Lots of controversial topics and flame wars, banning and reinstating. Then they did the first transition and turned our group into a non-existent person's profile. It was ridiculous, they said it was a mistake and claimed they couldn't reverse what they did in the tyransition. A crock of boogersnot, ha!



Satan isn't God, or a god, is he?



Could God be both?

I believe you need to rad the whole statement to find out.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

If you do, then how come? What do you call him? IS God a "him" or a "her"? And how many are there according to your belief?

Yes, I think he is the least improbable explanation for our existence- all things considered.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

Heck, no.

If you don't, then how come? What is it that you believe as far as this is concerned?

- I've never encountered a question where invoking a god answered more questions than it created.

- I've never seen any evidence that suggests a god might be necessary to explain... well, anything, really.

- The world seems to agree just as well with my godless mental model as it does with theists' mental models. This suggests to me that their gods are superfluous and an unnecessary (and untested) assumption.

- Most god-concepts I've encountered come as a package deal with other concepts I reject (e.g. the existence of an immaterial "soul", or claims of specific revelation events).

- There are mutually exclusive god-claims that have similar levels of support. This suggests to me that none have been supported to a good enough degree that I'd be justified accepting any of them as true. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.

- Many god-concepts have characteristics that suggest to me that they were made up by people, either deliberately or organically over time. Most (or maybe all) the religions I'm familiar with are better explained as human creations than as caused by gods. For instance: it makes absolutely no sense for a god to try to spread a message to all of humanity by giving it to one person in one language at one time and place, and asking him to tell everyone else. OTOH, it makes perfect sense for a human-created religion to spread this way.

- Any unfalsifiable god-concepts I've ever encountered seem to have been crafted specifically to be unfalsifiable, which makes me place them somewhere around Russell's Teapot in terms of credibility and the weight I give them.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Do you believe in God (or a supreme being higher than yourself)?

No, I think it's a silly idea. Guinness is supreme.