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Do you believe in the trinity?

Muffled

Jesus in me
I do not believe in the Trinity.Jesus made it clear, and so do the holy scriptures,that he is the Son of God.There is only one God and He is the Almighty.There is no three in one.

I believe Jesus did make it clear that He is God in the flesh and that the Paraclete is God also.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
How do you get a son from a father with no mother?

I believe that happens by nomenclature not what actually happens. Call a spade a spade but Jesus is a son of Mary and He is God in the flesh which means He is of God as well so one can name him Son of God.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Why are you coming at me if the question reads "do you believe in the Trinity?" :shrug: It is a question posted by the OP. I answered it.Wheres the disrespect sir? Even the OP states he does not believe in it.

There seems to be a misunderstanding. I didn't mean to be rude. I guess my language failed me, I'm really sorry :(

I'll delete the post.

I was only trying to agree with you and that your belief is similar to mine, with the small exception that happened to be there.

I apologize :(
 
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There seems to be a misunderstanding. I didn't mean to be rude. I guess my language failed me, I'm really sorry :(

I'll delete the post.

I was only trying to agree with you and that my belief is similar to mine, with the small exception that happened to be there.

I apologize :(
Na man.It s cool.It is I who misunderstood then.It is I who apologize.I assumed that you were trying to say that I was in the wrong some how.The way the comment read and when I saw how you responded to my comments.I just thought.No harm no foul.It's all good smart guy.:hug:
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Na man.It s cool.It is I who misunderstood then.It is I who apologize.I assumed that you were trying to say that I was in the wrong some how.The way the comment read and when I saw how you responded to my comments.I just thought.No harm no foul.It's all good smart guy.:hug:

Yet I made a stupid typo and said "my belief is similar to mine" haha :p

Even if we disagree with each other, I'd not let that affect the friendliness :)

I wish everyone else is understanding like you. I guess I'll keep my signature (what's written below posts) for some more time :)
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Welcome to RF.

I believe the Trinity is the one God and one Lord.

I believe one ought to go by scriptures rather than conjecture.

He said "I and my Father are one."

Concerning the phrase I an my fathrr are one, I believe we have to look at the context if we want to know the true meaning. It doesnt necessary main that they are one but may mean that they take the same stand. It is a language thing.

Just the same way you quoted this phrase I can quote you when Jesus peace be upon him said the Father is greater than I.

Now if your phrase means what you said, than the second phrase is wrong. And if the phraseI took is correct than your interpretation is wrong
 
Concerning the phrase I an my fathrr are one, I believe we have to look at the context if we want to know the true meaning. It doesnt necessary main that they are one but may mean that they take the same stand. It is a language thing.

Just the same way you quoted this phrase I can quote you when Jesus peace be upon him said the Father is greater than I.

Now if your phrase means what you said, than the second phrase is wrong. And if the phraseI took is correct than your interpretation is wrong
Yes sir.........:yes:
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
The major two concepts there is a need to discuss about are "trinity" and "begotten son". Well these two concepts are only established by taking verses out of context. You will not find in the bible somewhere Jesus explicitly saying that he is god. On the other hand you will find him explicitly stating that he is not god. One explicit statement overwrites 10000 implicit statements for all implicit statements are taken out of context.*The only verse indicating trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one) has been removed from the bible by 32 scholars of the bible in the Revised Standard Version among many other verses as fabrication after they realized that these verses do not exist in the most ancient manuscript and as such there is not a single verse indicating Trinity anymore in the complete bible.John A-V {5:7} For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (This verse does not exist anymore in the RSV)The fabrication of the Begotten SonThe word begotten has been removed from all Gospels by the same bible scholars as fabrication after they realized that this word does not exist in the most ancient manuscript.John A-V {3:16} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (This word does not exist anymore in all Gospels in the RSV), so Jesus is not begotten by God where we find others still alleged to be begotten sons of God according to the bible. examples:*(if the word son, means begotten son )David was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.Israel was a begotten son of God long before Jesus (according to the bible). Exodus A-V {4:22} And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel[is] my son, [even] my firstborn:So the term Son of God in the language of the Jews means godly person not actual son of God and does not mean divinity at all, examples:All Jews are sons of God (according to the bible). Psalms A-V {82:6} I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.All those who follow the spirit of God are sons of God (according to the bible). Romans A-V {8:14} For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
 

Gnostic Seeker

Spiritual
Concerning the phrase I an my fathrr are one, I believe we have to look at the context if we want to know the true meaning. It doesnt necessary main that they are one but may mean that they take the same stand. It is a language thing.

Just the same way you quoted this phrase I can quote you when Jesus peace be upon him said the Father is greater than I.

Now if your phrase means what you said, than the second phrase is wrong. And if the phraseI took is correct than your interpretation is wrong

I believe this is correct. It means Jesus acted in union with God's will.
 
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