Ok sojourner but take it to the bottom of the human mind, why a suicider suicides?, dispair? and what he wanted instead of dispair? an exit? for what? to feel good, to stop feeling dispair to not feel anything at all, the suicider ultimately takes the choice of killing himself, his choosing may be influenced by a million things and emotions, but after all hes chooses to die; Martyr or self sacrifice goes the same path, leave brave and mora values and good or wrong, lets cut down to the simpliest why do martyrs die for? for their beeliefs or whatever good reason you can think of, in any case martyrs and self sacrifice people seek for feeling good, or more unconsiously to just not feel bad, if a martyr dies for his beeliefs he did so so he wouldnt feel bad after being prived of his ideals, in the example of a person jumping infront of a bullet to save someone it could be many cases but the main root to this action is feeling good or not feeling bad, so these people take the choice of diying, maybe the concsiousnes level is different and the reasons and factors of why they were driven to that choice are wrong or good according to moral standard, but at the end, a 14 year old kid which shoots himself seeked the same thing as any given saint that was killed for his beliefs, not feeling bad.
