Do you cut off the head or cut throats of the Koran orders

[FreedomIsNatural]

This is really gruesome and despicable, but let's not forget how the Koran and Bible orders people to stone people who worship other gods.

Sorry I meant the Torah and Bible.

 

[Treks]

Furthermore, I'm not sure which verse you're actually talking about. Your 'translation' makes no sense in English.

Presuming you're talking about The Cow 191, here's a translation for those who would like to know:

191: And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.​

Let's have a look at what was before, and what is after this passage:

190: Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

191 see above

192: And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

193: Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.
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Surat Al-Baqarah [2:188-196] - The Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم

I am at a loss as to why people are so vicious against this?

 

[`mud]

Or burning at the stake or hanging from one !
Life is as wicked as the people in it !
And it is stuff, get used to it !
~
'mud

 

[morphesium]

Yes, it's backward thinking , but live with us in this world
And explain Islamic ideas and the teachings of Islam is very important in this time
These are the teachings of Islam

Actually it is getting much better.
I definitely think Islam needs to refine a lot. It is brainwashing that keeps Islam going.

 

[psychoslice]

How would you have them fight during war? By waving their hands frantically at each other yelling, "Oh staaaph!"

That would be a help lol.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

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These verses from the Koran
I think the translation of the Qur'an in the English language are not true
Those who know Arabic know the meaning of these verses well
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فإذا لقيتم الذين كفروا فضرب الرقاب حتى إذا أثخنتموهم فشدوا الوثاق فإما منا بعد وإما فداء حتى تضع


الحرب أوزارها ذلك ولو يشاء الله لانتصر منهم ولكن ليبلو بعضكم ببعض والذين قتلوا في سبيل الله فلن يضل أعمالهم ) .
When you meet those who disbelieve, smite the necks even if Otkhantamohm Vhdoa bond either us or redemption after placing the war ended, so if it pleases God to beat them but Ablo some of you and some who have been killed for the sake of their God will not go astray ) .
وقال في الأنفال : ( فاضربوا فوق الأعناق ) [الأنفال : 12] ب
He said in the Anfal : ( then hit over the necks ) [ Anfal : 12] b

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

When the soldier goes into the army learns martial arts and how to let loose toward the goal
This of Military Sciences
Any teachings of the military in fighting
But we find the same teachings in the Koran
How any payment on the enemy and how to notch necks
So the teachings of the Holy War
Including Jun necks
2. In ancient wars was the sword is an effective weapon in the battlefield
The soldiers were wearing body armor
The weak point is the neck , because he could not protect the shield
For these were the teachings of Mohammed is the payment on the neck
It's really a religion of terrorism

 

[Treks]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your translation.

Can any other members who know Arabic translate, please? Is the English translation I provided untrue, as Mahasn is suggesting?

Many thanks

 

[Pegg]

I think you say i am hate Islam , but I actually explain Islam
Here is this verse from the Koran and the hit necks instructions
And how to be a hit during the war When you meet those who disbelieve, smite the necks even if Otkhantamohm Vhdoa bond either of us after either redemption until the war is over it if it pleases God to beat them but Ablo some of you some who were killed for the sake of God will not mislead their business )
This verse is from the Koran
But I know that I speak Arabic well- meaning but many people are unaware of this wonderful verse from the Koran
I present to you part of the explanation in this verse
So Muslims know beheadings , one of the teachings of the Koran
I hope that the matter be useful
What is the wisdom in the choice of hitting the neck on other Members say that, since between the believer is not to defend but it is defended , and that it pays off the attacker should not be primarily intended his death but graded and hits on a non- kill off , the lunge same is not promoted to the degree of depreciation , God said is not intended only push them off the face of the earth , and ground clearance of them , and how not to you and the earth mosque , and the polytheists
And the polytheists are unclean , and the mosque cleanse from impurity , if it should be first your intention to kill them other than to pay off the attacker , and neck showed fighter ; because cutting the throat and Aloodaj accessory to die but the war is not preparing it , and neck phenomenon in the war in hit Jun neck which is accessory to die unlike other positions , particularly in the war , and in saying: ( ye meet ) predictor for violating off the attacker because the saying: ( ye meet ) shows that the intention on their part other than our saying "to Qakm " , so he said elsewhere in the present : (And slay them where you find them ) [ cow : 191 ]

I feel sorry for you.

 

[Pegg]

He kind of brainwashing
Because the Muslim reciting the Koran and not understand his words and teachings well
But it is the word of God

actually its the word of Mohammad.

God is against murder.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

actually its the word of Mohammad.

God is against murder.

These words of the Koran
A military teachings
And payment in the battle on the neck
When you play football you pay towards the goal and learn how to pay on the net
Teach and coach repayment
It is the teachings of the football
But give us the teachings of the Koran War
I hope the analysis of my words because I want to introduce the teachings of Islam only

 

[Pegg]

These words of the Koran
A military teachings
And payment in the battle on the neck
When you play football you pay towards the goal and learn how to pay on the net
Teach and coach repayment
It is the teachings of the football
But give us the teachings of the Koran War
I hope the analysis of my words because I want to introduce the teachings of Islam only

makes absolutely no sense to me.

Maybe if I was living in the 7th century i might have a clue.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your translation.

Can any other members who know Arabic translate, please? Is the English translation I provided untrue, as Mahasn is suggesting?

Many thanks

The oldest you translate the words of the Anfal 1. Google
Strike =أضربوا
2 - over=فوق
3 - necks=الاعناق

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Of the most important concepts of Islam, he is good in every time and place
And that the word of God
It's a problem of intellectual Islam

makes absolutely no sense to me.

Maybe if I was living in the 7th century i might have a clue.

 

[Pegg]

Of the most important concepts of Islam, he is good in every time and place
And that the word of God
It's a problem of intellectual Islam

I still dont understand what you are saying??? I dont think you speak english as well as you think you might.

 

[Treks]

The oldest you translate the words of the Anfal 1. Google
Strike =أضربوا
2 - over=فوق
3 - necks=الاعناق

... so, during battle, a Muslim should aim to strike his enemy's neck?

So... what's the problem?

 

[`mud]

The only problem is, they're hitting the innocent's necks !
But.....life is stuff....good and bad.
Sad that !
~
'mud

 

[Smart_Guy]

Um, would anyone else please suggest other ways to perform execution or wage wars? Or are people suppose to welcome others to kill, rape and/or exile them?

If anything, Islam teaches to only fight when we have to, and when that happens, we do it in the fastest least hurting way; I repeat IF it happens when we have to.

I think you say i am hate Islam , but I actually explain Islam

I do not stab in Islam

Wait... you don't?

How would you have them fight during war? By waving their hands frantically at each other yelling, "Oh staaaph!"

OMG

This is really gruesome and despicable, but let's not forget how the Koran and Bible orders people to stone people who worship other gods.

Sorry I meant the Torah and Bible.

If at any time you want to edit, if the editing allowed time is over, you can always use the report feature on that post, or even contact me directly if you feel like it.
I'm at your service.

Can any other members who know Arabic translate, please? Is the English translation I provided untrue, as Mahasn is suggesting?
Many thanks

Your English translation is correct, ma'am

... so, during battle, a Muslim should aim to strike his enemy's neck?

So... what's the problem?

That's one teaching or how to kill in war. A quick strike ti the neck with a sharp sword would cut all senses to give the least pain possible. Once the spinal cord is cut, the brain renders not functional to give the feeling of pain. Science says that too

 

[Revoltingest]

Um, would anyone else please suggest other ways to perform execution or wage wars? Or are people suppose to welcome others to kill, rape and/or exile them?

If anything, Islam teaches to only fight when we have to, and when that happens, we do it in the fastest least hurting way; I repeat IF it happens when we have to.



Wait... you don't?


OMG

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Your English translation is correct, ma'am


That's one teaching or how to kill in war. A quick strike ti the neck with a sharp sword would cut all senses to give the least pain possible. Once the spinal cord is cut, the brain renders not functional to give the feeling of pain. Science says that too

You're staff now!?
Oh, dear....all those names I called you....I was kidding!

 

[Smart_Guy]

You're staff now!?
Oh, dear....all those names I called you....I was kidding!

Oh it's okay, I forgive you