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Do you cut off the head or cut throats of the Koran orders

beenie

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to---Treks Squishy Head

These verses from the Koran
I think the translation of the Qur'an in the English language are not true
Those who know Arabic know the meaning of these verses well

فإذا لقيتم الذين كفروا فضرب الرقاب حتى إذا أثخنتموهم فشدوا الوثاق فإما منا بعد وإما فداء حتى تضع


الحرب أوزارها ذلك ولو يشاء الله لانتصر منهم ولكن ليبلو بعضكم ببعض والذين قتلوا في سبيل الله فلن يضل أعمالهم
) .
When you meet those who disbelieve, smite the necks even if Otkhantamohm Vhdoa bond either us or redemption after placing the war ended, so if it pleases God to beat them but Ablo some of you and some who have been killed for the sake of their God will not go astray ) .
وقال في الأنفال : (
فاضربوا فوق الأعناق ) [الأنفال : 12] ب
He said in the Anfal : ( then hit over the necks ) [ Anfal : 12] b

What Qur'an are you reading? This sounds like a drunk god on google translate gone rogue. Who is Otkhantamohm Vhdoa? Ablo? Whaaaa?:confused:

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your translation. :(

Can any other members who know Arabic translate, please? Is the English translation I provided untrue, as Mahasn is suggesting?

Many thanks

Your translation is correct, as @Smart_Guy explained. :)
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

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If=اذا
2 - ye meet =لقيتم
3 - infidels=الكفار
4 - strike=أضرب
5 - necks=الاعناق
Um, would anyone else please suggest other ways to perform execution or wage wars? Or are people suppose to welcome others to kill, rape and/or exile them?

If anything, Islam teaches to only fight when we have to, and when that happens, we do it in the fastest least hurting way; I repeat IF it happens when we have to.



Wait... you don't?


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Your English translation is correct, ma'am :)


That's one teaching or how to kill in war. A quick strike ti the neck with a sharp sword would cut all senses to give the least pain possible. Once the spinal cord is cut, the brain renders not functional to give the feeling of pain. Science says that too :)
What is this style , my friend ??
You are unable to respond logical ??
That is trying to camouflage ??
Haorne in the subject and verses of the Koran this ??
Is it from the teachings of the Koran ?
Is it a special time in the life of Muhammad ??
Do you think it can not work the teachings of those verses ??
Do you want to cancel the provisions of Aqrank Hey Mister Smart ????
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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What Qur'an are you reading? This sounds like a drunk god on google translate gone rogue. Who is Otkhantamohm Vhdoa? Ablo? Whaaaa?
Do you want to teach me the language in which the type and Antgaha in classical and vernacular languages and dialects of Iraq and Syria ??
These verses from the Koran and the correct translation of the word after word ?
When translated word and its meaning show the correct translation ??
And also I know the Koran ?? because I studied the full Islamic law in all its provisions ???
To this day kept in the division of inheritance lectures ?? according to Sharia Islamic Do you want to send you copies of them ??
If you want dialogue logical Welcome
 

Treks

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Do you want to teach me the language in which the type and Antgaha in classical and vernacular languages and dialects of Iraq and Syria ??
These verses from the Koran and the correct translation of the word after word ?
When translated word and its meaning show the correct translation ??
And also I know the Koran ?? because I studied the full Islamic law in all its provisions ???
To this day kept in the division of inheritance lectures ?? according to Sharia Islamic Do you want to send you copies of them ??
If you want dialogue logical Welcome

Can you also translate verses The Cow 190, 192 and 193? Available in Arabic here: http://quran.com/2/188-196

Many thanks
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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Smart_Guy

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If=اذا
2 - ye meet =لقيتم
3 - infidels=الكفار
4 - strike=أضرب
5 - necks=الاعناق
So?
Muslims were in war at the time with who happened to be infidels, and the Quran mentioned them. What about it? Why do you take the word "infidel" as an insult? It simply means those opposing God!
I'm Muslim, and if this verse means what you are saying, I would be killing my colleague infidel friends where I work. The same goes with the Muslims I know know here. Are you telling me I'm not following God? That I'm not Muslim?

What is this style , my friend ??
You are unable to respond logical ??
That is trying to camouflage ??
Haorne in the subject and verses of the Koran this ??
Is it from the teachings of the Koran ?
Is it a special time in the life of Muhammad ??
Do you think it can not work the teachings of those verses ??
Do you want to cancel the provisions of Aqrank Hey Mister Smart ????
Sorry brother, that sarcastic style was at a funny statement @Treks said, not at you.
I'm not trying to camouflage any thing, I'm now a soldier in a battlefield.
As for the rest, I'm really sorry, I can't even get you point. Are you calling me names?

This verse abrogated says some Muslim scholars
And any copies were ordered to fight . I hope that this be clear
Some scholars said that this verse abrogated verse of the sword and the verses of the innocence of that at the beginning and the middle one , and most recently , as we pointed out
Please link me to some of those.
I live in Saudi Arabia, and I never heard of such a thing or learned it in schools... schools of a country that is supposedly Muslim extremist!
Also, why not those verses abrogated the ones your using against Islam instead that you think are evil?
 

Unification

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I think you say i am hate Islam , but I actually explain Islam
Here is this verse from the Koran and the hit necks instructions
And how to be a hit during the war When you meet those who disbelieve, smite the necks even if Otkhantamohm Vhdoa bond either of us after either redemption until the war is over it if it pleases God to beat them but Ablo some of you some who were killed for the sake of God will not mislead their business )
This verse is from the Koran
But I know that I speak Arabic well- meaning but many people are unaware of this wonderful verse from the Koran
I present to you part of the explanation in this verse
So Muslims know beheadings , one of the teachings of the Koran
I hope that the matter be useful
What is the wisdom in the choice of hitting the neck on other Members say that, since between the believer is not to defend but it is defended , and that it pays off the attacker should not be primarily intended his death but graded and hits on a non- kill off , the lunge same is not promoted to the degree of depreciation , God said is not intended only push them off the face of the earth , and ground clearance of them , and how not to you and the earth mosque , and the polytheists
And the polytheists are unclean , and the mosque cleanse from impurity , if it should be first your intention to kill them other than to pay off the attacker , and neck showed fighter ; because cutting the throat and Aloodaj accessory to die but the war is not preparing it , and neck phenomenon in the war in hit Jun neck which is accessory to die unlike other positions , particularly in the war , and in saying: ( ye meet ) predictor for violating off the attacker because the saying: ( ye meet ) shows that the intention on their part other than our saying "to Qakm " , so he said elsewhere in the present : (And slay them where you find them ) [ cow : 191 ]

Vain and outward. It is the internal slaying of bad thoughts and emotions and desires. Internal war in mind. Earth is another term for "matter" and the physical brain. The mosque is the mind, not a literal building. Killing off the evil internally. The attacker and the attackee is oneself who allows thenselves to be mentally imprisoned by garbage and that they shall always keep paying the price for internally. Have to fight the evil off of the mind.

Just as this quote is used to kill people:
Qur’an: Say, “O you who are Jews, if you claim that you are allies of Allah, excluding the people, then wish for death, if you should be truthful.” (62:6)

Better spiritual translation: "O you who are INWARD, you claim that you are allies of "God," excluding the world, then wish for the dying to ones self and old evil ways, if you should be truthful."
 

Aquitaine

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How would you have them fight during war? By waving their hands frantically at each other yelling, "Oh staaaph!"
Then again, one would have thought that having an "all-loving, all-merciful" Supreme Creator on their side would mean that they wouldn't have to defend themselves from senseless human aggression to begin with.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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So?
Muslims were in war at the time with who happened to be infidels, and the Quran mentioned them. What about it? Why do you take the word "infidel" as an insult? It simply means those opposing God!
I'm Muslim, and if this verse means what you are saying, I would be killing my colleague infidel friends where I work. The same goes with the Muslims I know know here. Are you telling me I'm not following God? That I'm not Muslim?
1 - friend --any be useful dialogue
Do I wish I could say to my state of the Koran, Surah Anfal correct ??
2. If the translation is not correct . I hope that you write verse with translation ??
3. I'm talking about education and the rule of the Koran
For example
I went to the market and bought a book called the teachings of a hockey game or a football game in which the commandments and methods of payment on the target
So here is the dialogue about these instructions from the Koran
A payment on the neck
So is the teaching of war and fighting
Do you think that God teaches us how to kill each other ???
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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So?
Are you telling me I'm not following God? That I'm not Muslim?
- You are Muslim first-class and distinction
Because you know the meaning of the pious
And implemented in this forum par excellence
You want to tell is a special verse in one battle or point in time from the past
But this talk is not true
It is contrary to the essence of faith
It is in favor of the Qur'an in every time and every place , a constant does not change
That is why I hope that gives us the Koran and explain to us this wonderful verse as it is
And not, as you want ???
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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Please link me to some of those.
I live in Saudi Arabia, and I never heard of such a thing or learned it in schools... schools of a country that is supposedly Muslim extremist!
Also, why not those verses abrogated the ones your using against Islam instead that you think are evil?
You did not hear this verse ???
Do you speak the truth ???
Do you mean it's not from the verses of the Koran ???
You really want to camouflage ???
It verse of the Koran
And it is studied in all religious schools
And religious scholars Icherhunha people
And you say you did not hear this verse ???
I hope that your words be balanced so as not to lose credibility in the dialogue
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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Then again, one would have thought that having an "all-loving, all-merciful" Supreme Creator on their side would mean that they wouldn't have to defend themselves from senseless human aggression to begin with.
Does God teach you how to kill ?
And how to pay your sword on the neck ??
It's a strange education ??
It is the teachings of God, war ??
 
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