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Do you cut off the head or cut throats of the Koran orders

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Does God teach you how to kill ?
And how to pay your sword on the neck ??
It's a strange education ??
It is the teachings of God, war ??

I'm not sure I fully understand your response, Mahasn.
I do not believe in a God. However, I believe that many religious scriptures can condone (and encourage) violence and stupidity.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure I fully understand your response, Mahasn.
I do not believe in a God. However, I believe that many religious scriptures can condone (and encourage) violence and stupidity.
Not all religious books that incite violence and fighting
Only the Koran
This method of payment for his teachings on the neck during the war
Do you think he is good education ???
Gospel does not incite violence and fighting
You does not believe in God
You know more than the Muslim God
My respect for you
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
to---Treks Squishy Head

These verses from the Koran
I think the translation of the Qur'an in the English language are not true
Those who know Arabic know the meaning of these verses well

فإذا لقيتم الذين كفروا فضرب الرقاب حتى إذا أثخنتموهم فشدوا الوثاق فإما منا بعد وإما فداء حتى تضع


الحرب أوزارها ذلك ولو يشاء الله لانتصر منهم ولكن ليبلو بعضكم ببعض والذين قتلوا في سبيل الله فلن يضل أعمالهم
) .
When you meet those who disbelieve, smite the necks even if Otkhantamohm Vhdoa bond either us or redemption after placing the war ended, so if it pleases God to beat them but Ablo some of you and some who have been killed for the sake of their God will not go astray ) .
وقال في الأنفال : (
فاضربوا فوق الأعناق ) [الأنفال : 12] ب
He said in the Anfal : ( then hit over the necks ) [ Anfal : 12] b

I know Arabic. The translation of the verse that Treks posted is very accurate, and the above verses are talking about a war. They are not talking about how to treat all non-Muslims. You are distorting their meaning and taking them out of context.

You should probably go read your own "holy texts" before criticizing anyone else's scriptures. I think you should read the Old Testament that is attached to every copy of the Bible if you want examples of barbarism and Iron Age savagery.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Not all religious books that incite violence and fighting
Only the Koran
This method of payment for his teachings on the neck during the war
Do you think he is good education ???
Gospel does not incite violence and fighting
You does not believe in God
You know more than the Muslim God
My respect for you

I must disagree with you: the Koran is not the only religious book which can incite violence, for example the Christian Old Testament promotes some aweful things.
Which religion do you currently belong to, Christianity?
 

seeking4truth

Active Member
If you want to understand the Quran and how to interpret it look at how the Holy Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings be on him) behaved.

He DID NOT behave by beheading when he entered Meccah victoriously. He asked those he defeated how they wanted to be punished. They responded -punish us as the brothers of Prophet Joseph were punished - ie. forgiven. He forgave them.

No followers of the Holy Prophet(peace and blessings be on him) behaved as IS are reported to be behaving.

What we read and see on the media is appalling no civilised person can accept it. BUT remember Europe has gone through such brutality too. Have you studied the history of the African slave trade and the removal of millions of Africans to America. That was not civilised! It is a horrifying story of greed and disrespect of people different from oneself. The same motives driving IS to kill those who don't support them.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I'm just trying to be friendly and appreciative.
But to be honest, I don't think I get your point.
You evade frank answer
I do not write any explanation to the words of the Koran
Just wrote a verse from the Koran and translated her words as they are
Only offered clear an answer
Do you hit the necks of the Koran instructions ??
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I must disagree with you: the Koran is not the only religious book which can incite violence, for example the Christian Old Testament promotes some aweful things.
Which religion do you currently belong to, Christianity?
Do you know what is the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament
You have a blurred vision of Christianity
And also mix between Judaism and Christianity
Christianity was born of Jewish Thought
But he parted them in those issues that speak about Christianity rejects any terrorist education
Christ was amended from the first commandment
God's love and the love of man
If you do not believe in God , but you believe in love, you meet with Christian thought
But Islam is different from Judaism and Christianity
And the call to Jun necks is to teach is not valid
Is my idea clear
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
If you want to understand the Quran and how to interpret it look at how the Holy Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings be on him) behaved.

He DID NOT behave by beheading when he entered Meccah victoriously. He asked those he defeated how they wanted to be punished. They responded -punish us as the brothers of Prophet Joseph were punished - ie. forgiven. He forgave them.

No followers of the Holy Prophet(peace and blessings be on him) behaved as IS are reported to be behaving.

What we read and see on the media is appalling no civilised person can accept it. BUT remember Europe has gone through such brutality too. Have you studied the history of the African slave trade and the removal of millions of Africans to America. That was not civilised! It is a horrifying story of greed and disrespect of people different from oneself. The same motives driving IS to kill those who don't support them.
Whichever is the most powerful words of the Koran or Muhammad interview ??
This is the word of the Koran
Today, the oldest interlocutors to an application that verse of Islamic history
It is the issue of the killing of Hassan and Hussein, Muhammad 's descendants
Who cut Raashm is Muslim
Ader orders which is the Muslim Umayyad caliph
The beheadings fixed in the Koran
And they are applied depending on the circumstances
I wish to know how they were beheaded Hassan and Hussein
Is that cut the necks of those infidel ??
He conclusive evidence that the firm Education in the minds of Muslims
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
If you want to understand the Quran and how to interpret it look at how the Holy Prophet Muhammad(peace and blessings be on him) behaved.

He DID NOT behave by beheading when he entered Meccah victoriously. He asked those he defeated how they wanted to be punished. They responded -punish us as the brothers of Prophet Joseph were punished - ie. forgiven. He forgave them.

No followers of the Holy Prophet(peace and blessings be on him) behaved as IS are reported to be behaving.

What we read and see on the media is appalling no civilised person can accept it. BUT remember Europe has gone through such brutality too. Have you studied the history of the African slave trade and the removal of millions of Africans to America. That was not civilised! It is a horrifying story of greed and disrespect of people different from oneself. The same motives driving IS to kill those who don't support them.
Whichever is the most powerful words of the Koran or Muhammad interview ??
This is the word of the Koran
Today, the oldest interlocutors to an application that verse of Islamic history
It is the issue of the killing of Hassan and Hussein, Muhammad 's descendants
Who cut Raashm is Muslim
Ader orders which is the Muslim Umayyad caliph
The beheadings fixed in the Koran
And they are applied depending on the circumstances
I wish to know how they were beheaded Hassan and Hussein
Is that cut the necks of those infidel ??
He conclusive evidence that the firm Education in the minds of Muslims
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
You evade frank answer
I do not write any explanation to the words of the Koran
Just wrote a verse from the Koran and translated her words as they are
Only offered clear an answer
Do you hit the necks of the Koran instructions ??
Okay, I'll play along, and God help me doing that.
No, I don't. The Koran instructions do not have necks to hit.
 
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Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Do you know what is the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament
You have a blurred vision of Christianity
And also mix between Judaism and Christianity
Christianity was born of Jewish Thought
But he parted them in those issues that speak about Christianity rejects any terrorist education
Christ was amended from the first commandment
God's love and the love of man
If you do not believe in God , but you believe in love, you meet with Christian thought
But Islam is different from Judaism and Christianity
And the call to Jun necks is to teach is not valid
Is my idea clear

So... you reject the Old Testament, but accept the New Testament? :S
Also, "love" isn't something Christianity (or any other religion) can claim ownership of - they did not invent nor discover it.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
So... you reject the Old Testament, but accept the New Testament? :S
Also, "love" isn't something Christianity (or any other religion) can claim ownership of - they did not invent nor discover it.
I do not reject the Old Testament
But I kept his private Ptvsara
As for education and human love is a Christian invention par excellence
One of the most important teachings of Christ
If you are a researcher in ancient books
You should look for the most famous books that are considered education the most important teachings of love
All thinkers before and after Christ were unable to provide the message of love as presented by Christianity to humanity
I hope to compare the teachings of the Bible and the teachings of the Koran
And you will know where he is right Education
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Do you think that you
His actions speak louder than your words.
What are the actions of Muhammad ????
You proof
I will tell you the actions of Muhammad and the Quran
1. married wife of the slain
After the murder of her husband , a Jewish
2. married wife of his adopted son
It is famous in the Koran
3. ordered to kill or Crvh and constructed between two camels
4. his marriage to Aisha as a little girl
Do you want more about the actions of Muhammad ????
 
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