Do you pirate movies online?

[nutshell]

Do you pirate movies online?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

If so, do you feel guilty or not?

I consider myself an artist and am completely against pirating. I understand the Internet is a valuable tool to get one's name "out there," but that's different than blatantly pirating a movie the makers of the film have released to the big screen.



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[Random]

No, no pirating movies...however, I download music frequently from filesharing sites and neglect to buy artists' CD's. Does this form of stealing count? Would it equally offend your artistic sensibilities?

 

[Willamena]

No, but I watch pirate movies online.
YouTube - The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Do you pirate movies online?

If so, why?

If not, why not?

If so, do you feel guilty or not?

I consider myself an artist and am completely against pirating. I understand the Internet is a valuable tool to get one's name "out there," but that's different than blatantly pirating a movie the makers of the film have released to the big screen.

Fellow artisan in tow........and my answer to your OP is absolutely not. Bootlegging hurts the industry more than it helps.




Peace,
Mystic

 

[Smoke]

Do you pirate movies online?

No.

If not, why not?

I wish I could say it's I have such great respect for art and artists, but while that's part of it, the truth probably has more to do with the fact that I like the finished product -- cover art, liner notes, etc.On the other hand, I do resent the fact that people like me who pay for the finished product are the only ones who have to sit through those damned FBI warnings.

If so, do you feel guilty or not?

I doubt if the people who do it feel guilty about it; they probably rationalize it somehow.

 

[vandervalley]

People be careful when you reply the OP; police might be onto you

 

[nutshell]

People be careful when you reply the OP; police might be onto you

Reading between the lines this suggests you are a pirate. Do you care to explain why?

 

[Azakel]

I don't, but for about 6 months when I was living in CO. my friend used my laptop and did do that. Yes I did watch them know they were pirated, no I don't feel bad because I didn't do it, and no I don't have any of them, he burn them all onto DVDs and then took them of my computer.

 

[Sunstone]

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[vandervalley]

Reading between the lines this suggests you are a pirate. Do you care to explain why?

For your information I am not a pirate of movies or music.

I don't listen to musics except the musics in pc games i usually play and I watch movies on TV.

 

[Fluffy]

Its actually against RF rules to talk about illegal activity so I can only take this on in a hypothetical manner.

If I were to download copywrighted material I would not feel guilty because:
I would have no intention of otherwise paying for that copywrighted material and thus would not be denying my money from anybody.
Any CDs and DVDs that I purchase would be done as a direct result of having downloaded that material or similar material first.
I would not believe there to be a significant difference between downloading a movie online and borrowing a copy of the movie off of a friend.

People be careful when you reply the OP; police might be onto you

The only people to have so far been brought to court for online copywright infringement have been the owners of programs that might be used to distribute copywrighted material and those who upload copywrighted material. Not a single downloader has yet been charged and so it is immensely unlikely that admitting to having downloaded copywrighted material will result in prosecution.

Also, good to see you back, nutshell!

 

[gnomon]

Nope.

I actually pay a pretty large fee to my local video store in order to pick up several movies at a time. I make good use of it and they seem to be pretty good about changing their stock.

I have a mixed opinion about this issue. A former girlfriend of mine backed pirating music and video due to the cost of purchasing these from a retailer. I wasn't impressed because I thought that the group she represented was not hurting for income and that you do not have any so called right to ownership of intellectual property.

In other words, most piraters I have known could very well afford the purchase and merely found some bizarre ethical loophole in order to justify their activities. People who truly cannot afford to purchase the music and video they desire cannot afford more important and needed goods and services.

 

[Fluffy]

In other words, most piraters I have known could very well afford the purchase and merely found some bizarre ethical loophole in order to justify their activities. People who truly cannot afford to purchase the music and video they desire cannot afford more important and needed goods and services.

However, not being able to afford something is insufficient justification for entitlement to it.

 

[vandervalley]

Oh by the way the games I play on my pc ain't pirated either

 

[gnomon]

However, not being able to afford something is insufficient justification for entitlement to it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I'm drawing a distinction between luxury and necessity.

 

[Fluffy]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I'm drawing a distinction between luxury and necessity.

Just that it seems irrelevant whether piraters can afford what they pirate or not. If a person is justified in pirating then he will be just as justified regardless of whether he could afford otherwise and vice versa.

 

[gnomon]

Just that it seems irrelevant whether piraters can afford what they pirate or not. If a person is justified in pirating then he will be just as justified regardless of whether he could afford otherwise and vice versa.

Forgive me for still being inquisitive.

I think the justification comes from self rationalization. It's not the economic viability of the person pirating but the justification they place on themselves in accords with their own view of the justification of the cost compared to pirating.

In other words, if someone can justify their pirating of video and music downloads even though they can actually afford the costs what is to stop their rationalization in justifying their taking of real property.

edit: I'm just not quite sure if we are on the same page here in our terms.

 

[Fluffy]

Forgive me for still being inquisitive.

I think the justification comes from self rationalization. It's not the economic viability of the person pirating but the justification they place on themselves in accords with their own view of the justification of the cost compared to pirating.

In other words, if someone can justify their pirating of video and music downloads even though they can actually afford the costs what is to stop their rationalization in justifying their taking of real property.

Ah I see what you mean now. In which case I'm not entirely sure that this sort of rationalisation process happens. For me, it would simply just not even occur to me that I would be doing something that needed rationalising in the same way that it does not occur to me to think of a justification for my action when I borrow a cd from my friend.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

I do watch movies online. I mean, there are millions of laws that you must follow... Dont really folllow all of them, do you? I don't think of it as "stealing". I am no millionaire, i can't afford to go the cinema every week. But, i do still go. When there is a movie with great special effects, like The Day After Tommorow, ill go to the cinema, movies like The Simpsons Movie in the cinema is a pure waste of many. I am not promoting this by any means. I know what i am doing is, wrong. I am not one bit guilty. These big men make billions, and me, an insignificant little person. Come on people, cant pay £11 pounds every time, or $22 every time. This may not be the prices in the U.S. But in the U.K. we are paying through our noses here!

 

[nutshell]

I do watch movies online. I mean, there are millions of laws that you must follow... Dont really folllow all of them, do you? I don't think of it as "stealing". I am no millionaire, i can't afford to go the cinema every week. But, i do still go. When there is a movie with great special effects, like The Day After Tommorow, ill go to the cinema, movies like The Simpsons Movie in the cinema is a pure waste of many. I am not promoting this by any means. I know what i am doing is, wrong. I am not one bit guilty. These big men make billions, and me, an insignificant little person. Come on people, cant pay £11 pounds every time, or $22 every time. This may not be the prices in the U.S. But in the U.K. we are paying through our noses here!

You know what you're doing is wrong, but you don't feel guilty. That's great for society.

You state that "these big men make billions" Who exactly would that include? The actors? Director? Producers? What about the writer? or the grip? or the caterer? or the stuntman or make-up or bestboy? or hairdresser? or editor? or art director? or set director? or costume designer? or anyone on the second unit? or the art depatment or sound department or visual effects team? or location manager or ????

I could go on and on.

so, which of these is getting those "billions" again?

Come on people, pirating movies hurts others.