form ,formed,which mean mean designed.
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Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?
- Thread starter Godobeyer
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No, certainly not. That's not the meaning.
Its does not had other meaning to me.
Just I caught you.
What? This was incoherent.
I am not sure now , you are all these at once :are not atheists,and you are Jew,and more agnostic, and scientist,
Does someone being scientist, so become far from religion belief,reject it !
This had no sense to me "I have form, but I am not designed"
A definition of form which works fairly well here - "a particular way in which a thing exists or appears." So to be beyond that would be to be formless. That would be the true nature of God, and of reality.
Formed or designed had exactly same meaning.
Which apprentally you waste our time to discuss and arguing about this.
No, form is opposed to formlessness. Design is to do with invention by a person. These are terms with pretty different meanings.
Don't try to fool us.
I do believe it's Design take creation by God
But you know exactly what I meant, just pretending , or wasting our time, or pleasing people to gain like or what ?
Godobeyer, I am utterly confused by this conversation - where am I trying to fool you? Where am I wasting your time?
I know you believe that things in creation are designed by God who is separate from creation.
This is not what I believe. I believe God is ultimately formless, but takes form to appear as creation.
Yes , that's what I feel.
by you said :
I have form, but I am not designed.
I am created but I am not designed
much non sense here.
I don't think you understand the subtleties of these terms Godobeyer.
You wrong, you know what I meant.
formed equal to designed
it's always used in discuss we are created by intelligient design.
This is what I mean :
http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1010/intelligent-design-in-the-complexity-of-the-human-body
What do you understand as the difference between form and formlessness? I think you are using the term 'formed' as a synonym for designed, when that's not how I'm using it.
wat "formlessness" you are talking about ?
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Well to understand the meaning of the word 'form' as I'm using it, you need to understand that I mean it in opposition to formlessness. Do you understand the term?
I don't see how I'm trying to fool you. I'm trying to explain something.
Do you have other dictionnary or what ?
We all understand the word form as design.
forming= designing, formed = designed.
"formlessness" is your invention, I never mentionned to .
please don't stuck it to me.
I have told you before, Evolution does NOT refer to the ORIGIN of life. And if you think that the first life on this planet was designed, I cannot argue with you. But the first life on this planet was really, really, really non-human, and you would not think very much of the "designer" of it.
Everything after that original life -- however it arose -- can be explained using nothing more than what is known about evolution. No gods need apply, they aren't required.