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Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?

Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?


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AllenWalker

Strong Truth
Because assertions must be based on evidence, to be considered credible.

I could insist that Russel's teapot was real, but I wouldn't expect any reasonable people to believe me without some supporting evidence.

Why do they need to be credible?

They can still be true even if not credible, am i correct?
 

AllenWalker

Strong Truth
I suspect you do not even know what "No True Scotsman" is.
If you did, you would not have asked.

You suspected wrong.

Your claim was wrong. Muslim is a follower of the religion Islam. Islam is a religion in which their is a belief of One Eternal God. God in the Quran states, those are the disbelievers who do not believe in the One Eternal God. Therefore, they are not Muslim. Simple deductive reasoning. :)
 

McBell

Unbound
You suspected wrong.

Your claim was wrong. Muslim is a follower of the religion Islam. Islam is a religion in which their is a belief of One Eternal God. God in the Quran states, those are the disbelievers who do not believe in the One God. Therefore, they are not Muslim. Simple deductive reasoning. :)
Looks like a series of bold empty claims to me...

Not to mention the fact that you have not shown yourself to be an authority on Islam.

Rather difficult to take you seriously when I have real life friends who would argue your No True Scotsman.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Why do they need to be credible?

They can still be true even if not credible, am i correct?
Anything that "can still be true" can equally well "still be false." So, you may make whatever claims you want (a higher power created you or the stork brought you or you were found in the pumpkin patch), but who cares. They're all just claims. Just as potentially true or false as the claim that the gods require virgin sacrifices or Mohammed went to Jerusalem on a flying horse. Or that I've got the biggest d**k in the universe.

(I may have mis-heard on that one -- it could be that my friend said "you are" rather than "you have" the biggest d**k, but I'm sticking to my version. :rolleyes:)
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do they need to be credible?

They can still be true even if not credible, am i correct?
What would be the point of posting an empty assertion on a talkboard? You can't discuss something without discussing the evidence for it.

Sure, lots of things are true that we have no evidence of, but so what?
I could state that there is life on Neptune, or three Gods with two heads each, but so what? Why waste the time and energy posting such things on RF if there is no substance to them to discuss?
 

McBell

Unbound
Expected from an atheist.
Not showing, does not mean not knowing. [
I have no care over what your real life ''friends'' have to say about me.
There is no god.

Since we do not have to support any claims, I am just as right as you are.

No idea what you are talking about with the friends comment.
Care to explain, or is it another bold empty claim?
 

AllenWalker

Strong Truth
Anything that "can still be true" can equally well "still be false." So, you may make whatever claims you want (a higher power created you or the stork brought you or you were found in the pumpkin patch), but who cares. They're all just claims. Just as potentially true or false as the claim that the gods require virgin sacrifices or Mohammed went to Jerusalem on a flying horse. Or that I've got the biggest d**k in the universe.

(I may have mis-heard on that one -- it could be that my friend said "you are" rather than "you have" the biggest d**k, but I'm sticking to my version. :rolleyes:)

So, then it can equally be false? But why is their, in an atheistic perspective, ''interpreted evidence'', but when it comes to disproving God, there is nothing. Not even interpreted evidence, every argument against God is wrong.

Now lets look into validity. What do you find more valid? Something that claims to be true & has some basis of evidence( SOME BASIS AS IN INTERPRETED EVIDENCE IN YOUR OPINION) or essentially nothing (belief in no God, no evidence, neither interpretated or anything) ?
 

McBell

Unbound
Now lets look into validity. What do you find more valid? Something that claims to be true & has some basis of evidence or essentially nothing (belief in no God, no evidence, neither interpretated or anything) ?
I do not fit into your false dichotomy.
Care to try again?
 

AllenWalker

Strong Truth
There is no god.

Since we do not have to support any claims, I am just as right as you are.

No idea what you are talking about with the friends comment.
Care to explain, or is it another bold empty claim?

I mean whatever you interpret = probably that you have no friends :)
 

AllenWalker

Strong Truth
What would be the point of posting an empty assertion on a talkboard? You can't discuss something without discussing the evidence for it.

Sure, lots of things are true that we have no evidence of, but so what?
I could state that there is life on Neptune, or three Gods with two heads each, but so what? Why waste the time and energy posting such things on RF if there is no substance to them to discuss?

The point of an empty assertion on a chat board is to let others know what i believe to be MY own belief.

I can definitely discuss something without discussing the evidence for it.

Do you believe Dark Energy exists?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So, then it can equally be false? But why is their, in an atheistic perspective, ''interpreted evidence'', but when it comes to disproving God, there is nothing. Not even interpreted evidence, every argument against God is wrong.
I'm not sure I'm following, AW. You can't prove a negative (Russel's teapot, again), you can't believe everything till each item is disproved evidentially -- that would be absurd.
The only reasonable thing is to believe thing as evidence for them appears.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
 
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