Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?

[Kirran]

Yes, you are not sect.

What's your sect Godobeyer?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

What do you mean ?

You claim that I am posting 'spam', because you don't agree with my beliefs/find them ridiculous...Or that I don't really hold them (how could anyone, right? - therefore I must be just a spammer/troll). Do you know how offensive that sounds?

With all due respect, Godobeyer, one could just as easily make the same sort of claim about your postings...

 

[Godobeyer]

What's your sect Godobeyer?

I stopped call my self sect,I don't support sects,but I take hadiths so I am considered as Sunni.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Yes, you are not sect.

Says who?

 

[Godobeyer]

I don't understand the difference to be honest. He has his take on Islam that's different to yours.

Are Ahmadis Muslims?

Yes they are Muslims.

kirran ,why don't listen to my request "Please back to track " ?

 

[Kirran]

I stopped call my self sect,I don't support sects,but I take hadiths so I am considered as Sunni.

This guy also is not of a sect, so you're both OK!

Yes they are Muslims.

kirran ,why don't listen to my request "Please back to track " ?

Nice!

Hahahaha, what is the track? Where has it gone?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Sorry,I really do forget what he said exactly .

This guy also is not of a sect, so you're both OK!

Btw, why the assumption that I am a 'he' (I appreciate that you may be using the term 'guy' more loosely, Kirran)?

 

[Godobeyer]

This guy also is not of a sect, so you're both OK!

Not that way

He will not represent his satanic view in Islam DIR,because it's not Islamic.

Nice!

Hahahaha, what is the track? Where has it gone?

I hate you spoke about sects,to compare it individual like this guy.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

kirran ,why don't listen to my request "Please back to track " ?

If you respond to my earlier questions...

What do you mean by 'Creator'? Does a 'Creator' have to be self-aware, and intend to create the thing it is creating? Can the cause of something be a creator?

...that might be a good way to get back on track...

 

[Godobeyer]

If you respond to my earlier questions...
.k...

What questions ?

 

[Kirran]

Btw, why the assumption that I am a 'he' (I appreciate that you may be using the term 'guy' more loosely, Kirran)?

I tend to use 'guy', 'dude' a lot. But yeah, I do do the thing which I don't like which is often assuming people are male online, it sucks.

Not that way

He will not represent his view in Islam DIR,because it's not Islamic.

Yeah, they (@The_Fisher_King - pending further information!) posted in the DIR.

I hate you spoke about sects,to compare it individual like this guy.

Because The Fisher King is much better than sects, or much worse, or...?

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, they (@The_Fisher_King - pending further information!) posted in the DIR.

For his satanic views,I don't think so. trust me


Because The Fisher King is much better than sects, or much worse, or...?[/QUOTE]

This :

I'll be interested to see what your particular way of doing things is - Satanic Islam is not a label I have come across before.

Excuse me Kirran,I am out for this discuss this in this thread,I just find it wasting of time really.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Not that way

He will not represent his view in Islam DIR,because it's not Islamic.

Who says? You happen to accept Ahmadis as Muslims, but many other Muslims do not - who gets to decide? I would very much like to have a conversation with you about why you think my views are not 'Islaamic' (I really don't want to derail this thread anymore than we already have done) - since I can't post in Islam DIR (I won't post there, because I'm not allowed to, remember?), where would you suggest I ask you this question?

 

[The_Fisher_King]

What questions ?

These ones:

What do you mean by 'Creator'? Does a 'Creator' have to be self-aware, and intend to create the thing it is creating? Can the cause of something be a creator?

 

[Kirran]

For his satanic views,I don't think so. trust me


Because The Fisher King is much better than sects, or much worse, or...?

This :


Excuse me Kirran,I am out for this discuss this in this thread,I just find it wasting of time really.[/QUOTE]

OK, I won't continue with the discussion here then. But hey, if the Alawites are in

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I tend to use 'guy', 'dude' a lot. But yeah, I do do the thing which I don't like which is often assuming people are male online, it sucks.

No worries!

 

[Godobeyer]

OK, I won't continue with the discussion here then. But hey, if the Alawites are in

This is childhood reply, it's seems people made a request or not,it's does not work with you !?

All sects are Muslims,I am pro-Assad btw.

 

[Kirran]

This is childhood reply, it's seems people made a request or not,it's does not work with you !?

All sects are Muslims,I am pro-Assad btw.

Yeah, I said I'd stop the off-topic discussion.

Then you said you were pro-Assad, which also seems off-topic haha. Not an Assad fan myself.

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, I said I'd stop the off-topic discussion.

Then you said you were pro-Assad, which also seems off-topic haha. Not an Assad fan myself.

Good to us.

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Just because something has an explanation and use does not mean it is well made. There are many human body parts that have a use but could be improved upon. Yes all of these natural phenomena have a use but again, if a designer can improve or create something better that serves the same function, then the original design is not as good as it could be.

This is what I mean by bad design. If people assert that there is an all powerful being that can make anything possible, then perhaps it is fair to critique this so-called god's designs as being poor, to point out that either that being is not all powerful or that it is made up. It would be a paradox for a perfect being to create something that is poorly made and flawed.

And on the last sentence, we have no idea whether or not we will understand everything. Maybe yes, maybe no. Either way it's no reason to jump to the "god" conclusion.

Well same again, historically our subjective judgment of 'bad design' usually turns out to come from our lack of appreciation for what the design does.

What do you, with your superior life designing skills, think you could improve on?

and on the last sentence- nor is it a reason to jump to the 'accident' conclusion, we're all taking our best guess, as long as we acknowledge that, our faith, I think we can all get along!