Do you think Moses existed as a historical figure?

[Kenny]

You forget that the majority in the old days lived near the sea and that that is why the flood stories are rampant. You might also note that the area of the Middle East has a lot of continental plates, volcanic eruptions and earth quakes that can cause tsunamis.

Regards
DL

That would work if there wasn't those who had the same stories but didn't live by the sea.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Mosses - drawn from the reeds

Reeds - the pith of which was used to make papyrus

Papyrus - the stuff a bunch of stories was written on

I've drawn the lines; if you can't see the picture I don't know what to say.

 

[outhouse]

The following is the list of those areas that say a global flood happened:

You can pedal that off to those that follow religious fanaticism, but this does not fly in academia.

Ancient people wrote using myths, this is a fact.

 

[Kenny]

You can pedal that off to those that follow religious fanaticism, but this does not fly in academia.

Ancient people wrote using myths, this is a fact.

Where there is smoke, there was a fire. But I understand... because it runs contrary to your religion, you must fight it tooth and nail. It is what fundamentalists do.

 

[Kenny]

Mosses - drawn from the reeds

Reeds - the pith of which was used to make papyrus

Papyrus - the stuff a bunch of stories was written on

I've drawn the lines; if you can't see the picture I don't know what to say.

GREAT STUFF... just made the necessary corrections

Mosses - drawn from the reeds

Reeds - the pith of which was used to make papyrus

Papyrus - the stuff history was written on

I've drawn the lines; if you can't see the picture I don't know what to say

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

GREAT STUFF... just made the necessary corrections

Mosses - drawn from the reeds

Reeds - the pith of which was used to make papyrus

Papyrus - the stuff history was written on

I've drawn the lines; if you can't see the picture I don't know what to say

LOL, I see we don't see what the other sees. Love it

 

[Kenny]

LOL, I see we don't see what the other sees. Love it

LOL The great thing is we can laugh about it and still be friends. It is what this country is made of and makes it great!

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Indeed.

LOL The great thing is we can laugh about it and still be friends. It is what this country is made of.

Indeed. I will be direct and even offensive; but I will appreciate wit and invite intelligent criticism at every opportunity. Hope you have a great weekend.

 

[Kenny]

Indeed.

Indeed. I will be direct and even offensive; but I will appreciate wit and invite intelligent criticism at every opportunity. Hope you have a great weekend.

Thanks for the good will... and likewise. We are celebrating the fact that grandchild #9 is in the oven. Apparently it will be the first Aussi in our fam.

PS... I don't offend easy.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Thanks for the good will... and likewise. We are celebrating the fact that grandchild #9 is in the oven. Apparently it will be the first Aussi in our fam.

PS... I don't offend easy.

Oh man, that is a grand reason for celebration!!! Congratulations!

 

[outhouse]

. But I understand... because it runs contrary to your religion

I don't have any religion.

you must fight it tooth and nail

No I fight fanaticism and fundamentalism of religious people that refuse education and knowledge, in favor of ancient mythology they refuse to learn about.

It is what fundamentalists do.

Funny, you have NO credible evidence at all for the exodus or moses existing.

I have factual evidence there was no exodus and that all modern historians INCLUDING credible religious historians trying to find evidence have actually given up all hope of their being a exodus.

All factual evidence points towards peaceful slow migration of displaced Canaanites that would become proto Israelites.

The Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most histories of ancient Israel no longer consider information about the Exodus recoverable or even relevant to the story of Israel's emergence


You have no right assuming fundamentalism on my part, when I have evidence and academia behind me.

You posses faith, that would fine on its own. But crossing the lines of academia, means the word fits you pretty accurately.

Fundamentalists | Define Fundamentalists at Dictionary.com
noun
1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.

 

[Kenny]

I don't have any religion.

I don't agree.

No I fight fanaticism and fundamentalism of religious people that refuse education and knowledge, in favor of ancient mythology they refuse to learn about.

I fight people who make statements that still are in flux be declare it to be stable. I resist those who don't agree that science corrects itself. I stand fast against those who think they know it all when they demonstrate that they know nothing at all.

Funny, you have NO credible evidence at all for the exodus or moses existing.

No, what we have is two different viewpoints on what evidence we do have. We wait for further evidence.

I have factual evidence there was no exodus and that all modern historians INCLUDING credible religious historians trying to find evidence have actually given up all hope of their being a exodus.

It is not some weird position when people try to find evidence 5,000 years old and have difficulty as the process goes on. Benjamin Franklin could have said "I have given hope in finding a filament that will burn in the bulb" when he hit 950, but kept on trying.

While there is no definitive evidence that it didn't happen, I trust those who wrote of that time.

All factual evidence points towards peaceful slow migration of displaced Canaanites that would become proto Israelites.

There was nothing but wars and more wars during those days.

You have no right assuming fundamentalism on my part, when I have evidence and academia behind me.

You are a fundamentalist when you dismiss archaeological findings!!!!!!!

Sincerely yours,

Ken

 

[Kenny]

Oh man, that is a grand reason for celebration!!! Congratulations!

Thanks. That makes 6 boys and 3 girls. Talking about mayhem when we all get together. Exponential fun! When they all received nerf guns--and it was 8 against Papa... I was a goner!

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Thanks. That makes 6 boys and 3 girls. Talking about mayhem when we all get together. Exponential fun! When they all received nerf guns--and it was 8 against Papa... I was a goner!

LOL. Don't act like you didn't love it. You were in he...you were having a great time

 

[outhouse]

I don't agree.

That is not for you to decide.

 

[outhouse]

You are a fundamentalist when you dismiss archaeological findings

Your the one who dismisses factual evidence not in dispute

No, what we have is two different viewpoints on what evidence we do have.

Wrong. Its not honest when one twist the evidence or creates imaginary viewpoints that just are not there.

This below is what you need to address.

The Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most histories of ancient Israel no longer consider information about the Exodus recoverable or even relevant to the story of Israel's emergence

 

[Kenny]

That is not for you to decide.

It is my prerogative.

 

[psychoslice]

That is not for you to decide.

I agree with you, I have no religion either, but those who believe cannot understand that, because they are imprisoned by their beliefs and they do like to see others free.

 

[Kenny]

Your the one who dismisses factual evidence not in dispute

I dispute that position.

Wrong. Its not honest when one twist the evidence or creates imaginary viewpoints that just are not there.

That is your personal opinion.

This below is what you need to address.

The Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most histories of ancient Israel no longer consider information about the Exodus recoverable or even relevant to the story of Israel's emergence

I already have said that I understand that most historians don't consider the information. Most is not all.

Some have stopped because 5,000 years have left few things due to deterioration of time and wars. However, there are still bits and pieces that are being considered.

IBSS - Biblical Archaeology - Evidence of the Exodus from Egypt

I look forward to additional discoveries since archaeology in that area has just scratched the first 10-20%.

 

[Kenny]

I agree with you, I have no religion either, but those who believe cannot understand that, because they are imprisoned by their beliefs and they do like to see others free.

And that, my friend, is a religion.

You are imprisoned by your belief and you do not like to see the others free.