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Do You Think Muslims Are Violent?

Do You Think Muslims Are Violent?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • No

    Votes: 33 66.0%

  • Total voters
    50

Harikrish

Active Member
In the past 74 years I have faced that on more than a few occasions. I've survived and still say that as long as I live in a country I will live by their laws.

Except in Monarchies, dictatorships and Theocracies it will eventually be majority rule that wins out.
You must mean democracy when you speak of majority rule. But democracy doesn't work when the electorate are illiterate and uninformed and this is what is behind the Arab uprising....civil unrest!!!
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
So Woodrow,

Do you believe in the separation of church and state? If so, do you believe in the separation even when it conflicts with Sharia?
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe it depends on how we define violence. Islam simply promotes standing up for one's life, defending honor, life and properties, have strict rules to scare the evil from committing crime (not to actually apply those rules for fun on murderers and rapists), preparing power to protect land, properties and honor against rapists and murderers, to do something against those who walk openly to our families wanting to murder or rape them, instead of just watching them have their way....

If the act of fighting back those trying to rape/murder my mother or sisters, even if it results in killing those murderers/rapists in the process, is called the violence we are talking about, then by all means, yes, Islam promotes violence and I am violent.

Ma'am, please forgive me for this post if it sounded rude, but please understand that this life is harsh. This life is not perfect. We need laws that cover seriousness as well as leniency. We need balance in these two, not just one of them. Believe me, I want all to live peacefully together, but no matter what, there are who want to murder and rape for any reason. We can't just watch them to what ever they want. I'm not saying to attack, I'm saying to defend.

But I don't blame you for accusing Islam for violence (and I'm not mad btw, to the contrary, I respect your opinion and like your honesty :)). It is easy to just find verses all over the internet and media that talk about killing, without knowing the context or the reason behind it, and call Islam violent.
I appreciate your thoughts. I'm a guy, BTW. The terrible atrocities being committed by the sects of Islam on each other cannot be termed self de fence, IMO.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I appreciate your thoughts. I'm a guy, BTW. The terrible atrocities being committed by the sects of Islam on each other cannot be termed self de fence, IMO.

Oops, really sorry about that sir.

Yes, you are right. I just strayed a little of-topic and spoke about Islam not Muslims.

But please allow me to impose a little more and talk about actual Muslims this time. The Muslims that mostly standout and reach the media (or the other way around) are indeed what you say and do not define Islam nor the adjective "Muslim" in general. The non violent Muslims that do not reach the media (or again, the other way around) do exist and believe it or not, they are way so much more in numbers than the ones gave the reason for people to think Muslims are violent. Indonesia alone has over 200 million Muslims, believe it or not. We do not hear things about them except for those incidental, just like any other country in the world. Where I live the govt. fights terrorists and sectarianism. Terrorists terrorize us even here in the birth place and source of Islam.

Sorry again for mistaking your gender. I feel guilty about it :(
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Oops, really sorry about that sir.

Yes, you are right. I just strayed a little of-topic and spoke about Islam not Muslims.

But please allow me to impose a little more and talk about actual Muslims this time. The Muslims that mostly standout and reach the media (or the other way around) are indeed what you say and do not define Islam nor the adjective "Muslim" in general. The non violent Muslims that do not reach the media (or again, the other way around) do exist and believe it or not, they are way so much more in numbers than the ones gave the reason for people to think Muslims are violent. Indonesia alone has over 200 million Muslims, believe it or not. We do not hear things about them except for those incidental, just like any other country in the world. Where I live the govt. fights terrorists and sectarianism. Terrorists terrorize us even here in the birth place and source of Islam.

Sorry again for mistaking your gender. I feel guilty about it :(
No worries. Don't feel guilty.
However, regarding Indonesia, it appears Muslim clerics and other Muslims shared in the massacre of perhaps a million people in 1965-66.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
No worries. Don't feel guilty.
However, regarding Indonesia, it appears Muslim clerics and other Muslims shared in the massacre of perhaps a million people in 1965-66.

Cool :)

Which is something similar to things Christians (and others too) did through out history too. People are people and I'm not defending the Muslims that commit/ted atrocities. Muslims do have crazies just like any others, and yes, compared to others, they do stand out more.

I call for accepting and judging people for who they are not what religion they belong to.

My general point is that the idea of Muslims whither being violent is not valid.

Just my opinion.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
The only sure method to judge if a Muslim is dangerous is to measure the beard. It operates as a phallic symbol in many ways. The longer the beard the more violent the Muslim. Also the more messy and untrimmed it is the more likelihood this Muslim has TNT strapped to his waist.

A clean shaven Muslim though is as peaceful as babe! This is how I judge Muslims most times :D
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
The only sure method to judge if a Muslim is dangerous is to measure the beard. It operates as a phallic symbol in many ways. The longer the beard the more violent the Muslim. Also the more messy and untrimmed it is the more likelihood this Muslim has TNT strapped to his waist.

A clean shaven Muslim though is as peaceful as babe! This is how I judge Muslims most times :D

Yeah, sometimes when I lose track of time and my beard grows, I become so violent I can beat any fighting video game :D
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Oops, really sorry about that sir.

Yes, you are right. I just strayed a little of-topic and spoke about Islam not Muslims.

But please allow me to impose a little more and talk about actual Muslims this time. The Muslims that mostly standout and reach the media (or the other way around) are indeed what you say and do not define Islam nor the adjective "Muslim" in general. The non violent Muslims that do not reach the media (or again, the other way around) do exist and believe it or not, they are way so much more in numbers than the ones gave the reason for people to think Muslims are violent. Indonesia alone has over 200 million Muslims, believe it or not. We do not hear things about them except for those incidental, just like any other country in the world. Where I live the govt. fights terrorists and sectarianism. Terrorists terrorize us even here in the birth place and source of Islam.

Sorry again for mistaking your gender. I feel guilty about it :(
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Yeah, sometimes when I lose track of time and my beard grows, I become so violent I can beat any fighting video game :D
You carry seeds with bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Abu Bakr
And the killing of Hassan and Husayn
Because you believe in the Qur'an
In every moment of time these seeds can grow and make you a first class
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
You carry seeds with bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Abu Bakr
And the killing of Hassan and Husayn
Because you believe in the Qur'an
In every moment of time these seeds can grow and make you a first class

I am already first class. I can finish the first level of Doom2 without getting hit!
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
I do sense an underlying intolerance in Islam, and I suspect that is what leads to the fundamentalism and violence we see. Historically the same trend has been evident in Christianity.
I missed one of the 7/7 London tube bombings by 24 hours. I am happy for Muslims to practice their faith peacefully, but I do object to some fanatic trying to blow me up, particularly when there is no discernible political objective behind it.
 
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I do sense an underlying intolerance in Islam, and I suspect that is what leads to the fundamentalism and violence we see. Historically the same trend has been evident in Christianity.
I missed one of the 7/7 London tube bombings by 24 hours. I am happy for Muslims to practice their faith peacefully, but I do object to some fanatic trying to blow me up, particularly when there is no discernible political objective behind it.
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mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
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