Granted, but 'meaningful' and 'convincing' are both value judgements made subjectively by the individual (which is a perfectly normal and effective way to accept or reject evidence).
You are playing a Blue Smoke and Mirrors shell game. Meaningfulness and convincing may be just value judgments from your perspective, but not in a court of law. In the courts of law the objective verifiable physical evidence takes precedence over any possible conflicting subjective or anecdotal evidence. In fact if there is only anecdotal or subjective evidence in a court case it fails based on the legal standards of evidence.
I will rest on science, and actual historical, archaeological and paleontological evidence, to when considering the reliability and provenance of ancient scripture as a witness of the reality of our history based the archaeological and historical evidence. This objective evidence stands in a court of law, and the historicity of the Bible does not.
What is or isn't accepted as evidence in a court of law is determined by the subjective process of precedent, itself determined by the subjective opinion of judges on a case by case basis. Scientific evidence obviously fits quite a separate category and seeking such strict, formal measures on a forum is kind of ludicrous. We are limited to electronic media and almost exclusively text based communication, after all.
Considering that you copied and pasted this from an online source:
Unnamed author from Oxford
Published in book form
Copied to the internet version
Relayed to you by Google
And pasted here for me.
That's what? 5th hand testimony? from a written work with no provenance of authorship?
I still consider this evidence as it is a body of information indicating the truth of a proposition. Just like scripture.
And when we design an experiment on this subject we had better adhere to these rules if we are to be taken seriously. We aren't doing that, though. We're debating. And we aren't debating how best to use a super collider so scientific evidence is hardly necessary.
More shmooze and blue smoke and mirrors. Courts of Law and science have higher standards of evidence that are functioning in the real world. I consider your view of evidence severely deluded.
Yes, exactly. Should I remind you that the Bible has been entered into evidence more than once under many different legal systems? I hope not, I really don't want to do that research.
Research away, remember you would be trying to use the references in the Bible as evidence to demonstrate history where there is not evidence outside the Bible. Such things as the Biblical Flood, literal Creation and the Tower of Babel come to mind as historical claims in the Bible that will not stand up in court nor the test of evidence in science nor archaeology.
This has gotta be a joke of unbelievable proportions, Absolutely NO, the Bible has not been suitable for evidence in many many years concerning the reliability of the text in history. You are appealing to the medieval.
The Bible totally lacks the provenance and documented authorship to be used as evidence no further than those that claim by 'faith' to believe it so.
I will be awaiting the response with your so to speak 'research.'
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