Does any supernatural god exist?

[mikkel_the_dane]

Nobody yet has pointed out an error that I haven’t easily explained.

Well, there are 3 possible outcomes:
It is correct.
It is in error.
It is unknown.

So you could learn to check for all 3 and not just take for granted the 2 top ones.

 

[Ajax]

You are dead wrong about everything you said. You forgot the elephant in the room. God hold the whole universe in the palm of His hand. The solar system is a tiny speck of pond scum in his sight. God doesn't play by your rules, He considers the wise guys to be an abomination in His sight. God is supernatural, every speck of dust in the entire universe must obey Him.

Once you learn the basics of theology, you may be equipped to engage in a rational discussion on the subject, until then all you have to offer is hot air

We are all in awe from the validity of your arguments defending your views...

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

We are all in awe from the validity of your arguments defending your views...

Well, you are not we. So stop claiming that as that is not the case.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Everybody knows that the sun and planets are moving at hi speed through space, there's no issue with that. The Bible didn't get into all the cosmological details in those passages. It simply stated that they would witness the sun and the moon to stop in their place, that means the earth stopped turning. But from the point of the observer it appeared that the sun and the moon had stopped in their tracks.

That passage of scriptures was not given as a lesson in cosmology, it was dealing with a completely separate lesson

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[Ajax]

Everybody knows that the sun and planets are moving at hi speed through space, there's no issue with that. The Bible didn't get into all the cosmological details in those passages. It simply stated that they would witness the sun and the moon to stop in their place, that means the earth stopped turning. But from the point of the observer it appeared that the sun and the moon had stopped in their tracks. That passage of scriptures was not given as a lesson in cosmology, it was dealing with a completely separate lesson

Wow! That's a huge miracle! I love your explanation Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..
Actually if Earth stopped moving, the armies as well as everybody else would be dead.
Big tsunamis can happen with slight earth movement from regional earthquakes. Imagine the whole earth spinning at 1000miles/hour and stopping suddenly.

 

[Soandso]

Wow! That's a huge miracle! I love your explanation Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..
Actually if Earth stopped moving the armies, as well as everybody else would be dead.

Don't think about it. Abracadabra everyone lives

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Wow! That's a huge miracle! I love your explanation Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..
Actually if Earth stopped moving the armies, as well as everybody else would be dead.

Now I get it. I suspect you are an AI bot run by an atheistic group to make fun of religious people. That makes sense.

 

[blü 2]

Yes I am, do you have an issue with that fact?

That you are an elect saint of God?

I'd say I had questions rather than issues at this stage.

First, what entity with objective existence (ie found in nature, the world external to the self, which we know about through our senses) do you intend to denote when you say "God"? Please describe this entity sufficiently so that if we find a real suspect we'll be able to determine whether it's God or not.

Or does God only exist as a concept, notion, thing imagined in individual brains?

Second, what is an "elect saint of God"?

Third, what objective test will let us determine whether any particular person is an "elect saint of God" or not?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That you are an elect saint of God?

I'd say I had questions rather than issues at this stage.

First, what entity with objective existence (ie found in nature, the world external to the self, which we know about through our senses) do you intend to denote when you say "God"? Please describe this entity sufficiently so that if we find a real suspect we'll be able to determine whether it's God or not.

Or does God only exist as a concept, notion, thing imagined in individual brains?

Second, what is an "elect saint of God"?

Third, what objective test will let us determine whether any particular person is an "elect saint of God" or not?

There is no self as it has no objective existence. It is delusional and stupid to talk anout a self and a mark of a religious person. The same with insividual. Everything as real and existent is objective.

 

[Kaynat tareen]

Y

I've seen threads of...
Theists: Does God Exist?
Atheist: Does God Exist?

IMO That refers to one certain God

So painting with a broader brush, does any supernatural god exist?

Yes the existence of God is everywhere just you've the eyes of heart to see otherwise you're not able to see God.just think about that you want to do what you want but the happenings are not just like you want so there isn't a possibility that someone is watching you and control all the affairs of your life???

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Y

Yes the existence of God is everywhere just you've the eyes of heart to see otherwise you're not able to see God.just think about that you want to do what you want but the happenings are not just like you want so there isn't a possibility that someone is watching you and control all the affairs of your life???

I do it differently and have a different set of beliefs.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Yes, you are the only one who thinks so. Congratulate yourself...

Would you care to enlighten us also as to how the sun and the moon stopped for a day in Joshua 10?

How would I know how God stops the sun or moon?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

So what? Why is Acts (Paul and Luke) more knowledgeable than all the Jewish scholars who studied and claimed for centuries that David's Psalm is not a prophecy for anyone. We do know by his own admission that Paul is a liar.
Romans 3:7 "But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, iwhy am I still being condemned as a sinner? "
This fits perfectly as to why David was named a prophet in Acts.

So what?

It’s what the Bible says which automatically invalidates what anyone else says.

Ask them how they excuse it away.

 

[SalixIncendium]

just think about that you want to do what you want but the happenings are not just like you want so there isn't a possibility that someone is watching you and control all the affairs of your life???

Is it more likely there is an invisible puppet-master in the sky or that "happenings" are influenced by causality?

 

[blü 2]

There is no self as it has no objective existence. It is delusional and stupid to talk anout a self and a mark of a religious person. The same with insividual. Everything as real and existent is objective.

Forgive me, old friend, but on this occasion I want to hear @Charles Philips ' take on those questions.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So what?

It’s what the Bible says which automatically invalidates what anyone else says.

Ask them how they excuse it away.

Well, I still believe different and I don't care about the Bible. So your words are just another belief system to me.

 

[Kaynat tareen]

I do it differently and have a different set of beliefs.

No problem then tell me what you think about that??

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No problem then tell me what you think about that??

I am an universal strong skeptic. I doubt and what is left, is what I believe in.
So I don't believe in the natural nor supernatural as an example.

 

[Aupmanyav]

That is your belief, keep meditating.

I have done my meditation and have realized this. No more search.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Does this mean that you just believe whatever is written in the Bible, without understanding or even try to evaluate how these things could happen?

If that is the case, then you lack cognitive ability, and therefore you can not judge whether the Bible contains errors or not.

Yeah, the lack of cogntive ability can be found in some humans, but as far as I can tell, it is not limited to religious humans.