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Does believing, thinking or feeling something is true actually make it true?

Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
SalixIncendium said:
Yes, you both can...but probably not the same dress at the same time unless you buy one large enough.
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LOL or just one can. And if he or she is brave enough, he or she can go up to the other man and say "You WISH you were wearing this dress!" Or maybe even "I am treating you the way I would want to be treated. So I'm wearing a dress and you can too if you like."
 
Kathryn

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Ignatius A said:
So it's not a rule or a law that only women can wear dresses, correct?
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I doubt there is any sort of law in any western country. Though I will add that in many cultures it would be frowned upon or worse.

Also, don't forget kilts.

TRUE STORY TIME:

I was in a bar/restaurant in New Orleans a coupla years ago and there was a man in there in a kilt. I thought he worked there (I don't know why but I thought that) and it took me a bit to realize, no, he was just hanging around in New Orleans wearing a kilt. It helps to have great legs.
 
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Alien826

Alien826

No religious beliefs
Ignatius A said:
Your first attempt at a premise in the first paragraph is inadequate. You missed a step. It should have read this way
A man has XY chromosomes
I have XY chromosomes
Therefore I am a man.
Do you understand the difference between what you wrote and what I wrote?

What you have as #2 must be #1. Nobody cares what chromosomes you have . It must first be established who has XY chromosomes. Men have XY chromosomes. IF you have XY chromosomes then and only then are you a man. I not sure why you're using that if you don't know how it works.
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I know I said I'd finished talking to you, but I can't resist this. You logic is wrong. (from Wikipedia):

The XY sex-determination system is a sex-determination system used to classify many mammals, including humans, some insects (Drosophila), some snakes, some fish (guppies), and some plants (Ginkgo tree).
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So, having XY chromosomes does not necessarily make you a man. In fact it makes you male and a member of certain species.

You need to add "human" to your syllogism.
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Ignatius A said:
In recent discussions about gender identity it was said that gender identity is validated by what the person believes, thinks and feels. Fine. The follow question was then posted: Is someone with a penis who believes, thinks and feels that they are woman, actually a woman? The common response was, it's not a yes or no question. Is that true? If a person said they believe, think and feel that they are a frog mean they are actually a frog? Could we not say to that person you are an amphibian?
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Apart from medical anomalies, which would have a cause, we have two genders which are male and female.

There is currently no chance of having a reasonable discussion on this topic with the current level of society imposed and self imposed gender identity, built on an errant eduction and degraded morals, the water is way to muddy.

The only clarity to this issue is found in the laws Given by God and not by man, but God is on the backburner at the moment.

Regards Tony
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
TransmutingSoul said:
Apart from medical anomalies, which would have a cause, we have two genders which are male and female.

There is currently no chance of having a reasonable discussion on this topic with the current level of self inspired and imposed gender idenrity, built on an errant eduction and degraded morals, the water is way to muddy.

The only clarity to this issue is found in the laws Given by God and not by man, but God is on the backburner at the moment.

Regards Tony
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Seeing as God had an epic failure with slavery AND has been absent since Biblical times....

I have already posted this but will do so again for the convenience of those stepping into the swamp:

gender (n.)​

c. 1300, "kind, sort, class, a class or kind of persons or things sharing certain traits," from Old French gendre, genre "kind, species; character; gender" (12c., Modern French genre), from stem of Latin genus (genitive generis) "race, stock, family; kind, rank, order; species," also "(male or female) sex," from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.​
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The unetymological -d- is a phonetic accretion in Old French (see D). Also used in Latin to translate Aristotle's Greek grammatical term genos. The grammatical sense is attested in English from late 14c. Jespersen ("Philosophy of Grammar," 1924) defines grammatical gender by reference to the Indo-European distinction of masculine, feminine, neuter, "whether the division be based on the natural division into two sexes, or on that between animate and inanimate, or on something else."​
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The "male-or-female sex" sense of the word is attested in English from early 15c. As sex (n.) took on erotic qualities in 20c., gender came to be the usual English word for "sex of a human being," in which use it was at first regarded as colloquial or humorous. Later often in feminist writing with reference to social attributes as much as biological qualities; this sense first attested 1963. Gender-bender is from 1977, popularized from 1980, with reference to pop star David Bowie.​
 
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