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Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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MikeSavage
Active Member
I told you that I never "said" I needed it in my comment. I also subsequently told you that we all need refinement. M
Well, God Almighty said to have NOTHING to do with, and to not touch the unclean thing. Pagandom is where the December 25th, 12 day celebration originated.Yes, most people think Christmas is to do with Santa.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Yes, so I guess Christmas has nothing to with Christ?
MikeSavage
Active Member
Actually, no, it doesn't.
JM2C
CHRISTIAN
The truth is absolute meaning it lacks nothing otherwise, it's not the truth.
JM2C
CHRISTIAN
Ignorance is just lack of knowledge. Your lack of the truth, and that is, knowledge, is the only reason why we have this argument in the first place.
You argued that my God does not exist, but according to the bible, God is real. I believed that God is real and that is the truth, and that truth is knowledge, therefore am I lacking knowledge or ignorance of this truth? NO! Then who is? Not me.
Am I being dishonest about this knowledge, this truth about God, as far as you and I are concerned? No! Therefore I am neither “dishonest” nor “ignorant” of this knowledge, this truth about God.
These same folks who think this is not Pagan have the same issues with Easter.
Is there one Christian among us who does not have a tree in their house?
Is there one Christian among us who does not have a tree in their house?
Ah the Nativity Scene .... Graven Image or Idol .... you choose ....
I think you mean this is pagan.
I am sure there are many. All the Christian Jehovah's Witnesses have no tree.
MikeSavage
Active Member
It seems that Mistemia means that he rejects God.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
For me, Christmas is about Christ. While I don't know the actual day in which Christ was born, Christmas is the day I celebrate His birth.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
And nobody is telling you that you can't do that. You're certainly welcome to celebrate anything on any day you happen to choose. That doesn't mean that most people are going to do that, or just because you do something, that makes that day somehow magically special. In the United States at least, and it's largely true through the rest of the world that celebrates Christmas as well, Christmas is primarily a secular holiday. Most people celebrate it in primarily a secular way. Very few celebrate it only religiously. Some add religious elements to their secular celebration. That's the nice thing about America, everyone has the right to celebrate it how they wish.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
Of course. The question of the OP was, "Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?" And my answer shows that Christmas has everything to do with Christ. How other people celebrate Christmas doesn't take anything away from the fact that Christmas has everything to do with Christ, even if only for me.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
For me, it doesn't matter what the day of Christmas coincides with. For me Christmas has nothing at all to do with pagan rituals and celebrations. For me, Christmas is only about Christ.
Oh yeah, The End
McBell
Unbound
McBell
Unbound
Argument?
Not much of an "argument" when you simply make bold empty claims and I point out your bold empty claims are nothing but bold empty claims.
I did?
Really?
Please present the post where I argued god does not exist.
According to harry potter...
Please note that I see no reason to hold the Bible as any truer that Harry Potter or The Lord Of The Rings.
Looks like you got lost somewhere between the beginning of that salad and the end.
There is that consistency again.
Bold empty claims abound.
Is it possible to hear Christmas and not think about Christ? Only if you never heard of Jesus Christ.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Just have to reveal a secret here. I have a nativity scene (and tree and such too of course), and I'm not a Christian!
I think the traditions and the concepts of Christ, Santa Claus, celebration, and food, lots'a food, is all awesome.
Sonofason
Well-Known Member
Yes, I have a Christmas tree in the house, but it has nothing at all to do with me. It's there because my wife wanted it there. I helped decorate it because my wife wanted me to help decorate it. But I really couldn't care less if it was there or not. I put lights on the house too, but not because I think putting lights on the house is how one should celebrate the birth of Christ. I put lights on the house because my wife wanted lights on the house. We put presents under the tree too, but not because I want to put presents under the tree. My wife wants the presents under the tree. I couldn't care any less for what Christmas has become to so many people. For me, the only meaningful thing about Christmas is Christ.