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Does god make a good parent?

waitasec

Veteran Member
Actually, I've been saying exactly the opposite on two threads. God doesn't command in all things, but expects us to do good of our own free will.

how can he expect us to do good if we are innately evil?
:shrug:

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and to add
thanks to MeMyself, where in the bible does it say that we are [also] innately good?
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
i read this on another thread and thought it would be apropos to the thread
.... It takes a lot more backbone and courage to become a person who is deserving of respect than it does to beat on people who won't respect you despite your lack of merit.

how does god deserve respect if it is something one is pressured or manipulated in to doing in order to show their reverence?
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
how can he expect us to do good if we are innately evil?
:shrug:

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and to add
thanks to MeMyself, where in the bible does it say that we are [also] innately good?

We are not innately evil. After all, we were made in God's image.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i read this on another thread and thought it would be apropos to the thread


how does god deserve respect if it is something one is pressured or manipulated in to doing in order to show their reverence?

Learning to respect and be reverent is not for God's benefit - it's for ours.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
We are not innately evil. After all, we were made in God's image.

i think we have the capacity to be innately good and evil.
where do you find in the scriptures where is stipulates that we are innately good? it doesn't seem to fit if we are in need of salvation
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
Learning to respect and be reverent is not for God's benefit - it's for ours.

If you don´t do what is best for you I will send you to a place of eternal suffering and if you ask me to please get you out iof there I will never say yes because I tried to help you to be good with you, but you didn´t listen

I am not a good parent, I am an AWESOME parent.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
If you don´t do what is best for you I will send you to a place of eternal suffering and if you ask me to please get you out iof there I will never say yes because I tried to help you to be good with you, but you didn´t listen

I am not a good parent, I am an AWESOME parent.

flex them muscles....
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
If a parent tells their child was worthless, evil and lucky to be kept alive, what kind of person would that child turn out to be? If a parent executed their child for second guessing them or for disobeying, is that setting a standard for an exemplary parent? I hear this all the time, 'god loves us like a father would.' I couldn’t disagree more. 1st, as a parent, my love is unconditional and I would never set my child up for failure just so he would have to depend on me for everything, from buying a car/house to getting a better job or meeting the right person. My will would trump his and nothing good can come from him and the only good thing about him isn’t him it’s his faith in me…
I think god would FAIL as a parent.
Any thoughts?
Sure God is love.Without love what worth do you have?
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Sure God is love.Without love what worth do you have?

huh??

as a parent i try to instill self worth and confidence in my child...
i try to focus and bring attention to his strengths in order to attain that confidence and keep me out of the picture.
i don't see the god of the bible doing that.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you don´t do what is best for you I will send you to a place of eternal suffering and if you ask me to please get you out iof there I will never say yes because I tried to help you to be good with you, but you didn´t listen

I am not a good parent, I am an AWESOME parent.

That's your view of God. Not mine.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i think we have the capacity to be innately good and evil.
where do you find in the scriptures where is stipulates that we are innately good? it doesn't seem to fit if we are in need of salvation

I think it's implied by the fact that we're made in God's image and that we're commanded to be perfect. Just because are innately good does not mean we fall short sometimes. Because we do, salvation is necessary. It's through salvation that we become perfect and fulfill the commandment.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I think it's implied by the fact that we're made in God's image and that we're commanded to be perfect. Just because are innately good does not mean we fall short sometimes. Because we do, salvation is necessary. It's through salvation that we become perfect and fulfill the commandment.

i don't see how that would fit...
even though my son has my genes why would i, or why should i expect him to be exactly like me?

that would be absurd, don't you think?
 

krsnaraja

Active Member
i don't see how that would fit...
even though my son has my genes why would i, or why should i expect him to be exactly like me?

that would be absurd, don't you think?


We keep on forgetting that God has a wife. Krishna`s father for example have two wives Devaki & Rohini. Krishna who is God had 16,108 wives at Dwaraka. The above post is moot and academic.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
i don't see how that would fit...
even though my son has my genes why would i, or why should i expect him to be exactly like me?

that would be absurd, don't you think?

I didn't say we are "exactly" like God. If that were the case, this whole experience would be unnecessary. What I mean is that because we are made in God's image (and that image is good) then we too must be innately good. Does that mean we are perfect? No.
 
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