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Does God Punish Feeling Lust?

As an atheist, do you think the video's view of God condemning people for feeling lust is right?


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1213

Well-Known Member
Lust is Definition of LUST.

Bible says "mulitply". Lust fits perfectly in, in my view.

Ok, in that case I think you have wrong definition. In Biblical point of view lust is evil desire, which is not good. Evil desire means that you want something that doesn’t belong to you, or is not good for you.

Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry;
Col. 3:5

For example, it is not wrong to desire your own wife. It is wrong to desire neighbor’s wife.
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
In Biblical point of view lust is evil desire, which is not good.
according to you. It's presumption since you can't back it up by anything, in my view.
Put to death therefore your members which are on the earth: sexual immorality, uncleanness, depraved passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry;
Col. 3:5
this verse does not say that lust is "evil desire".
My definition of lust wasn't wrong. It was from a dictionary.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
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My definition of lust wasn't wrong. It was from a dictionary.

Your definition can be usually correct, because many think that way. If we speak about what Bible teaches, then I think we should use its meanings. I don’t think you can support the idea that desiring own wife is lust and wrong, but you can try. Please support your idea by the Bible?
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
I don’t think you can support the idea that desiring own wife is lust and wrong, but you can try. Please support your idea by the Bible?
Proverbs 5:19 describes sexual (good) lust. It is about breasts.
So, Bible does not contradict a normal use of the word for lust, I think.
 
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1213

Well-Known Member
Proverbs 5:19 describes sexual (good) lust. It is about breasts.
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I see that very differently. I don’t think it is about lust. And it certainly doesn’t have the word lust, so I think you should find some other scripture about it so that we could know what we should think about lust.
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
I see that very differently. I don’t think it is about lust. And it certainly doesn’t have the word lust, so I think you should find some other scripture about it so that we could know what we should think about lust.
it is about breasts and being satisfied by them as a man. What do you think when you see the breasts of own wife?
I think it's clear. It's not some philosophical or metaphorical satisfaction here, I think. A husband is not her child.
If you stay with your opinion and reply, I won't answer but stay with my opinion also.
 

capumetu

Active Member
I'd like to discuss
another prominent video
promoting atheism.

Last time, many atheists said that atheism didn't need a prophet or a leader in the way Christianity does.
Many atheists disagreed with the videos from that channel.

Nevertheless some agreed.
Taking into accoung the overwhelming success of the video, it has some 4.2 million clicks and as many as 50,000 likes, I'd like to discuss it here.
The likes can't stem from Christians, I think. *

At minute 2:30, the video says that God convicts "people for feeling [what lust feels like]".
I doubt it.
I think that lust is totally fine. Even for God. He created it, I think.

* it is the purpose of the channel to address religion "because of the people who believe in God." The author does not " want them to believe in a fantasy" as he says.


Of course those who have chosen not to accept God or that He even exists are free to do as they please, simply reaping what they sowed.

God's people however do their utmost to live up to His standards. Does He hold bad thoughts against you, likely not, as a person cannot control his mind. A good example to prove this is what the Apostle Paul stated:
(Romans 7:14-25) . . .we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am fleshly, sold under sin. 15 For I do not understand what I am doing. For I do not practice what I wish, but I do what I hate. 16 However, if I do what I do not wish, I agree that the Law is fine. 17 But now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is the sin that resides in me. 18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, there dwells nothing good; for I have the desire to do what is fine but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good that I wish, but the bad that I do not wish is what I practice. 20 If, then, I do what I do not wish, I am no longer the one carrying it out, but it is the sin dwelling in me. 21 I find, then, this law in my case: When I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me. 22 I really delight in the law of God according to the man I am within, 23 but I see in my body another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law that is in my body. 24 Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death? 25 Thanks to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So, then, with my mind I myself am a slave to God’s law, but with my flesh to sin’s law.

Keep in mind he was personally selected by Jesus to be an apostle, and he was spirit anointed. If he cannot control his thoughts, how can the common Christian. Obviously Paul was forgiven, but it is one thing to fantasize, but another to do. We may not have control over our thoughts, but we can control our actions. Actions are a choice.
 
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