Does God want everyone to believe in him?

[prometheus11]

Not accepted. You can call it "Belief" if you'd like, but it's faith. You have faith in your Dr. to prescribe the right medication. You don't know if the night before you go to your Dr. he/she had a breakdown and is giving you the wrong medicine. It's faith to get in your car that you have driven hundreds of times and had no problem, you get where you're going and back home. Then one day, by faith that you're done it so many times before, you have a flat tire or you car breaks down. You still get in your car without a thought of not making it back home without any problems. If a person lived to be 40 years old, do they go to bed every night worrying if they will wake up in the morning? They have faith in the unknown that they will. Nothing is guaranteed in this life, no matter how often something happens, but we have faith in the unknown that it will continue to happen.

I'm not arguing. I'm saying that faith/belief is dumb if there's no good prior experience of that exact thing.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

everything is open to interpretation, even in science. there are no absolutes.

especially with new evidence contrary to established belief.

again it's a rorschach test. it says more about the observer than the observed.

In correct again, we make beliefs based on absolutes in science.

Well then by that token I can say that The Lord of the Rings is a holy book.

 

[prometheus11]

everything is open to interpretation, even in science. there are no absolutes.

especially with new evidence contrary to established belief.

again it's a rorschach test. it says more about the observer than the observed.

Not accepted. Being hit with a brick or a chemical doesn't depend on your belief of it working. Unlike faith and his belief which requires belief.

 

[Fool]

Then why would you respond to me?

If you are going to try to debunk my arguments I will counter it.

ad hominems don't do nothing for your countering. especially if the countering tries to promote a lie about the poster vs the idea being conveyed.

focus

 

[Fool]

In correct again, we make beliefs based on absolutes in science.

Well then by that token I can say that The Lord of the Rings is a holy book.

http://ww2.valdosta.edu/~cbarnbau/phys_math/science.html

"I'm sure you've all felt the consequences of the Theory of Gravity when you trip and fall. Yet we call Gravity a "theory" rather than a "fact" because there are no absolutes in scientific understanding."

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

ad hominems don't do nothing for your countering. especially if the countering tries to promote a lie about the poster vs the idea being conveyed.

focus

Excuse me, you are accusing me of being a lair.
When have I lied about you?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

http://ww2.valdosta.edu/~cbarnbau/phys_math/science.html

"I'm sure you've all felt the consequences of the Theory of Gravity when you trip and fall. Yet we call Gravity a "theory" rather than a "fact" because there are no absolutes in scientific understanding."

Theory is a fact in science, something that many people do not want to understand.

 

[Fool]

Not accepted. Being hit with a brick or a chemical doesn't depend on your belief of it working. Unlike faith and his belief which requires belief.

knowing after the fact is one thing. believing it will hit it's target is another.

anyone who has a belief should be willing to put it to the test. that is the scientific method. people have done it for centuries without giving it a name. whooopeeeee dooooooooo

 

[Fool]

Excuse me, you are accusing me of being a lair.
When have I lied about you?

cackles

 

[prometheus11]

knowing after the fact is one thing. believing it will hit it's target is another.

anyone who has a belief should be willing to put it to the test. that is the scientific method. people have done it for centuries without giving it a name. whooopeeeee dooooooooo

Science is able to predict. That's why it's reasonable to believe that when you give somebody a sedative it will work and why it's unreasonable to believe prayer will work.

 

[Fool]

Theory is a fact in science, something that many people do not want to understand.

Theories may change, or the way that they are interpreted may change, but the facts themselves don’t change. Tanner likens theories to a basket in which scientists keep facts and observations that they find. The shape of that basket may change as the scientists learn more and include more facts.

theories can change but facts don't

http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html

 

[Fool]

Science is able to predict. That's why it's reasonable to believe that when you give somebody a sedative it will work and why it's unreasonable to believe prayer will work.

i don't have a problem with prediction and probability. i have a problem with someone claiming absolutes.


focus

 

[Fool]

now can we get back to the idea of God; which is love in action. love is creative.

 

[McBell]

I know actually that you won't answer the question and you'll direct me to read something.
You weren't able to prove me wrong, good luck

you assume to much.
"weren't able" implies an attempt that did not happen

 

[Fool]

Deuteronomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Exodus 15:17
Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O Lord, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established.

Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground(mound/mountain), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

[McBell]

No, you don't have the answer otherwise you can prove me wrong, shame on you.

Do you think you have somehow "won"?
I sincerely hope not...

 

[McBell]

ad hominems don't do nothing for your countering. especially if the countering tries to promote a lie about the poster vs the idea being conveyed.

focus

What ad hominem?

 

[McBell]

now can we get back to the idea of God; which is love in action. love is creative.

Why does love need another name?

 

[Fool]

What ad hominem?

whether the poster is a christian, or not, is irrelevant to an idea. the poster had a bias towards the post because of what a person may or may not wear. the clothes do not make the man.

 

[McBell]

Deuteronomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Exodus 15:17
Thou shalt bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of thine inheritance, in the place, O Lord, which thou hast made for thee to dwell in, in the Sanctuary, O Lord, which thy hands have established.

Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground(mound/mountain), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Well ladies and gentlemen, the debate is clearly over.
Bible verses have been posted....

Move along now, nothing more to see

Yes
this is sarcasm