Does Man need Gods Law?

[9Westy9]

Well I don't know how I could go about "proving" it exactly, but doesn't it make sense. I mean when you murder someone you KNOW it's wrong. However you might BELIEVE you're doing the RIGHTthing(it's still wrong though and the person knows it). I mean do you know of someone who sees murder as not a bad thing to do?

Again you keep referring to people I know. I only know people in my own society who have been brought up in a similar way with similar laws and morals. If I had been brought up in an African tribe where murdering was common place then maybe I wouldn't view it as such a bad thing

 

[Vadergirl123]

Again you keep referring to people I know. I only know people in my own society who have been brought up in a similar way with similar laws and morals. If I had been brought up in an African tribe where murdering was common place then maybe I wouldn't view it as such a bad thing

The people in Africa(and every other human being) know(deep down) that murder is wrong, but they've become use to seeing it. Just because a person's use to seeing something doesn't mean they accept it as RIGHT. They just accept it as a part of their society.

 

[Vadergirl123]

Oh, then the answer is no.

Why don't you believe we need his laws. Could you imagine a society with no laws. It would be pretty chaotic

 

[Revoltingest]

The people in Africa(and every other human being) know(deep down) that murder is wrong, but they've become use to seeing it. Just because a person's use to seeing something doesn't mean they accept it as RIGHT. They just accept it as a part of their society.

Not everyone believes that murder is wrong.
Some say it's OK in certain circumstances eg, Muslims with nuclear reactors.
Some change the name to sanitize it, eg, execution, extraordinary rendition.

 

[Vadergirl123]

Not everyone believes that murder is wrong.
Some say it's OK in certain circumstances eg, Muslims with nuclear reactors.
Some change the name to sanitize it, eg, execution.

Everyone knows killing in cold-blood is wrong. Some people just chose to do it anyway

 

[9Westy9]

The people in Africa(and every other human being) know(deep down) that murder is wrong, but they've become use to seeing it. Just because a person's use to seeing something doesn't mean they accept it as RIGHT. They just accept it as a part of their society.

question. When a child is born do they immediately know what right and wrong is? Also if morality is objective why do we have so many different opinions on what right and wrong is?

 

[Vadergirl123]

question. When a child is born do they immediately know what right and wrong is? Also if morality is objective why do we have so many different opinions on what right and wrong is?

Yeah they would have a sense of it. if you were to kill someone in front of a two year old they would know that's wrong. I honestly don't know. My guess would be b/c some people want to reassure themselves taht they're doing the "right" thing even though they know it's wrong

 

[Sunstone]

If everyone had an inner sense that murder was wrong, that would not in itself make murder objectively wrong.

 

[Vadergirl123]

If everyone had an inner sense that murder was wrong, that would not in itself make murder objectively wrong.

Why not you can KNOW something's wrong but still DO it.

 

[Sunstone]

Why not you can KNOW something's wrong but still DO it.

True. But irrelevant to my point.

 

[Vadergirl123]

True. But irrelevant to my point.

I don't understand how's it irrelevant?

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

Not everyone believes that murder is wrong.
Some say it's OK in certain circumstances eg, Muslims with nuclear reactors.
Some change the name to sanitize it, eg, execution, extraordinary rendition.

Why do you push Muslims in here, have you forgotten what the American Christians did in Japan in the WW2 bombing Hiroshima and Nagazaki and what the White Christians did when they invaded the two American when they act in a very barbaric way towards the indigenous people the Red Indians .
Tell us what the Zionists Jews are doing in Palestine since 60 years ( killing,cleansing,destroying,stealing,bombing...etc) ...Where are you ??
If your house made of glasses don't throw stone on others house , see yourself in history mirror then judge Muslims .Respect us to respect you .

 

[9Westy9]

Why do you push Muslims in here, have you forgotten what the American Christians did in Japan in the WW2 bombing Hiroshima and Nagazaki and what the White Christians did when they invaded the two American when they act in a very barbaric way towards the indigenous people the Red Indians .
Tell us what the Zionists Jews are doing in Palestine since 60 years ( killing,cleansing,destroying,stealing,bombing...etc) ...Where are you ??
If your house made of glasses don't throw stone on others house , see yourself in history mirror then judge Muslims .Respect us to respect you .

So he uses Muslim terrorists as an example and suddenly feel he's picking on you? Seem a little easily offended IMO.

 

[chinu]

Do people need Gods Law in their lives, can't man just see the obvious and come to the correct conclusion between good and evil, and make the right decisions so that he and all others can share together in what brings peace, joy and goodnees for others and himself?

Only meditation.

 

[cablescavenger]

Do people need Gods Law in their lives, can't man just see the obvious and come to the correct conclusion between good and evil, and make the right decisions so that he and all others can share together in what brings peace, joy and goodnees for others and himself?

I think mans law fares better, it is more specific, detailed, equitable and has an appeals process.

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

So he uses Muslim terrorists as an example and suddenly feel he's picking on you? Seem a little easily offended IMO.

Why didn't he use Christian terrorists as human history is full of good examples from Crusaders to Americans ?
Why didn't he use Jewish terrorists and criminal groups like Haganah & Argon and still going on till to date ?

 

[Pegg]

Do people need Gods Law in their lives, can't man just see the obvious and come to the correct conclusion between good and evil, and make the right decisions so that he and all others can share together in what brings peace, joy and goodnees for others and himself?

no one agrees on what is acceptable and what is not.

the different opinions causes division, hatred and violence. If we all adhered to Gods laws we wouldnt have the problems we have. So i would say we certainly need Gods laws if we are to live in peace and happiness, yes.

 

[9Westy9]

Why didn't he use Christian terrorists as human history is full of good examples from Crusaders to Americans ?
Why didn't he use Jewish terrorists and criminal groups like Haganah & Argon and still going on till to date ?

answer: He could have, why are you jumping to conclusions?

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Do people need Gods Law in their lives, can't man just see the obvious and come to the correct conclusion between good and evil, and make the right decisions so that he and all others can share together in what brings peace, joy and goodnees for others and himself?

Do kidds need their parent's directions?

 

[9Westy9]

Do kidds need their parent's directions?

bad analogy. Parents don't only communicate to their kids through other people and still try to pretend that they love their children.