OK, So I will place a Thread about Noah's flood, and we will use it as a demonstration on how the Atheist uses straw puppets in an attempt to discredit the Bible.
What do you say, only me any you where you tell me why Noah's flood is evidence that the Bible is wrong.
And I will show you why it is true.
Are we in agreement?
Noah mirrors the Epic of Gilamesh so it was likely taken from that source. Biblical writers also used the Mesopotamian creation narratives as well:
"
Comparative mythology provides historical and cross-cultural perspectives for
Jewish mythology. Both sources behind the Genesis creation narrative borrowed themes from
Mesopotamian mythology,but adapted them to
their belief in one God,
[2] establishing a monotheistic creation in opposition to the polytheistic creation myth of
ancient Israel's neighbors.
Genesis 1–11 as a whole is imbued with Mesopotamian myths. Genesis 1 bears both striking differences from and striking similarities to
Babylon's national creation myth, the
Enuma Elish. On the side of similarities, both begin from a stage of chaotic waters before anything is created, in both a fixed dome-shaped "firmament" divides these waters from the habitable Earth, and both conclude with the creation of a human called "man" and the building of a temple for the god (in Genesis 1, this temple is the entire cosmos). On the side of contrasts, Genesis 1 is monotheistic; it makes
no attempt to account for the origins of God, and there is no trace of the resistance to the reduction of
chaos to order (Greek:
theomachy, lit. "God-fighting"), all of which mark the Mesopotamian creation accounts. Still, Genesis 1 bears similarities to the
Baal Cycle of Israel's neighbor,
Ugarit.
The Enuma Elish has also left traces on Genesis 2.
Genesis 2 has close parallels with a second Mesopotamian myth, the
Atra-Hasis epic – parallels that in fact extend throughout
Genesis 2–11, from the Creation to the
Flood and its aftermath. The two share numerous plot-details (e.g. the divine garden and the role of the first man in the garden, the creation of the man from a mixture of earth and divine substance, the chance of immortality, etc.), and have a similar overall theme: the gradual clarification of man's relationship with God(s) and animals.
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But flood geology has been proven to be impossible, so there was no world flood according to modern science.
"Modern geology, its sub-disciplines and other scientific disciplines utilize the
scientific method to analyze the geology of the earth. The key tenets of flood geology are refuted by scientific analysis and do not have any standing in the
scientific community. Modern
geology relies on a number of established principles, one of the most important of which is
Charles Lyell's principle of
uniformitarianism. In relation to geological forces it states that the shaping of the Earth has occurred by means of mostly slow-acting forces that can be seen in operation today. By applying these principles, geologists have determined that the Earth is approximately
4.54 billion years old. They study the
lithosphere of the Earth to gain information on the history of the planet. Geologists divide
Earth's history into
eons,
eras,
periods,
epochs, and
faunal stages characterized by well-defined breaks in the
fossil record (see
Geologic time scale). In general, there is a lack of any evidence for any of the above effects proposed by flood geologists and their claims of fossil layering are not taken seriously by scientists.
The global flood cannot explain geological formations such as [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconformity']angular unconformities, where
sedimentary rocks have been tilted and eroded then more sedimentary layers deposited on top, needing long periods of time for these processes. There is also the time needed for the erosion of valleys in sedimentary rock mountains. In another example, the flood, had it occurred, should also have produced large-scale effects spread throughout the entire world. Erosion should be evenly distributed, yet the levels of erosion in, for example, the
Appalachians and the
Rocky Mountains differ significantly.[/URL]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_geology#cite_note-FOOTNOTEIsaak1998-112
The 4 sub-topics are listed and explained how each demonstrates there could not have been a world flood.
There are not strawmen?
Geochronology
This
Jurassic carbonate hardground shows generations of
oysters and extensive
bioerosion, features incompatible with the conditions and timing postulated for the Flood.
The alternation of calcite and aragonite seas through
geologic time.
Geochronology is the science of determining the
absolute age of rocks, fossils, and sediments by a variety of techniques. These methods indicate that the Earth as a whole is about 4.54 billion years old, and that the strata that, according to flood geology, were laid down during the Flood some 6,000 years ago, were actually deposited gradually over many millions of years.
Paleontology
If the flood were responsible for fossilization, then all the animals now fossilized must have been living together on the Earth just before the flood. Based on estimates of the number of remains buried in the
Karoo fossil formation in
Africa, this would correspond to an abnormally high density of vertebrates worldwide, close to 2100 per acre.Creationists argue that evidence for the
geological column is fragmentary, and all the complex layers of chalk occurred in the approach to the 150th day of Noah's flood. However, the entire geologic column is found in several places, and shows multiple features, including evidence of erosion and burrowing through older layers, which are inexplicable on a short timescale. Carbonate hardgrounds and the fossils associated with them show that the so-called flood sediments include evidence of long hiatuses in deposition that are not consistent with flood dynamics or timing.
Geochemistry
Proponents of Flood Geology are also unable to account for the alternation between
calcite seas and
aragonite seas through the Phanerozoic. The cyclical pattern of
carbonate hardgrounds, calcitic and aragonitic ooids, and calcite-shelled fauna has apparently been controlled by
seafloor spreading rates and the flushing of seawater through
hydrothermal vents which changes its Mg/Ca ratio.
Sedimentary rock features
Phil Senter's 2011 article, "The Defeat of Flood Geology by Flood Geology", in the journal
Reports of the National Center for Science Education, discusses "sedimentologic and other geologic features that Flood geologists have identified as evidence that particular strata cannot have been deposited during a time when the entire planet was under water ... and distribution of strata that predate the existence of the Ararat mountain chain." These include continental basalts, terrestrial tracks of animals, and marine communities preserving multiple in-situ generations included in the rocks of most or all Phanerozoic periods, and the basalt even in the younger Precambrian rocks. Others, occurring in rocks of several geologic periods, include lake deposits and eolian (wind) deposits. Using their own words, Flood geologists find evidence in every Paleozoic and Mesozoic period, and in every epoch of the Cenozoic period, indicating that a global flood could not have occurred during that interval. A single flood could also not account for such features as
unconformities, in which lower rock layers are tilted while higher rock layers were laid down horizontally on top.
