Does Something Other Than Matter Exist?

[Jimmy]

Not physically existing

Some examples of hypothetical particles include: the graviton (the theorized force carrier for gravity), the photino (superpartner of the photon), the gluino (superpartner of the gluon), the gravitino (superpartner of the graviton), the tachyon (a particle that always travels faster than light), strangelets (hypothetical particles composed of strange quarks), and various "sfermions" like squarks and sleptons which are predicted in supersymmetry theories

There’s a whole bunch of hypothetical particles

 

[ChristineM]

Right you said as far as you know no one is guessing smaller than quantum. That’s why I’m telling you that people are guessing about preons. It’s all guesswork beyond quantum. that’s the whole point of this thread to talk about what matter is made up of.

The preon idea is largely scrap, the LHC has shown to many of the preon hypothesis to be wrong.

And if it should exist the preon will be part of combined with the quantum physics is attempted to understand

 

[Jimmy]

The preon idea is largely scrap, the LHC has shown to many of the preon hypothesis to be wrong.

And if it should exist the preon will be part of combined with the quantum physics is attempted to understand

That’s what research is ongoing

 

[ChristineM]

Some examples of hypothetical particles include: the graviton (the theorized force carrier for gravity), the photino (superpartner of the photon), the gluino (superpartner of the gluon), the gravitino (superpartner of the graviton), the tachyon (a particle that always travels faster than light), strangelets (hypothetical particles composed of strange quarks), and various "sfermions" like squarks and sleptons which are predicted in supersymmetry theories

There’s a whole bunch of hypothetical particles

But as you say, hypothetical and predicted, just as the preon was.

When hypothesis becomes theory come back and tell me about it.

 

[ChristineM]

That’s what research is ongoing

The research using the LHC and othere colliders is most certainly ongoing.
Maybe when the LHC is upgraded we will see more (no guessing) but as it stands you are welcome to your guess

 

[Jimmy]

But as you say, hypothetical and predicted, just as the preon was.

When hypothesis becomes theory come back and tell me about it.

I’m sure you’ll find out before me

 

[ChristineM]

I’m sure you’ll find out before me

Maybe

 

[Jimmy]

The research using the LHC and othere colliders is most certainly ongoing.
Maybe when the LHC is upgraded we will see more (no guessing) but as it stands you are welcome to your guess

That’ll be sweet if the LHC can identify particles smaller than quarks

 

[Yerda]

Well we breathe in oxygen atoms all the time and those are clearly matter.

Yes, atoms are matter. How do you get from "matter exists" to "space is matter"?

 

[Jimmy]

Yes, atoms are matter. How do you get from "matter exists" to "space is matter"?

The space between the atoms of the air we breathe is essentially empty space; it's a vacuum where no atoms or molecules are present, allowing the air molecules to move freely around each other, and is often referred to as "intermolecular space" in science.

I’m a firm believer in particles smaller than quarks that are made up of matter which makes up this “vacuum”.

 

[Yerda]

The space between the atoms of the air we breathe is essentially empty space; it's a vacuum where no atoms or molecules are present, allowing the air molecules to move freely around each other, and is often referred to as "intermolecular space" in science.

I’m a firm believer in particles smaller than quarks that are made up of matter which makes up this “vacuum”.

What I'm asking is, what is the reason that you believe this?

 

[bobhikes]

Spaces is matter is it not?

No it is not.

 

[Eddi]

Spaces is matter is it not?

As far as we humans are concerned it is that which matter occupies

 

[Jimmy]

No it is not.

Well, you can’t say that with any accuracy because science can’t detect the smallest particles

 

[Jimmy]

What I'm asking is, what is the reason that you believe this?

We know Atoms exist and we know the smaller particles that make up atoms exist so it only makes sense that even smaller particles would exist that make up the space in between atoms.

 

[Jimmy]

As far as we humans are concerned it is that which matter occupies

The concern isnt over as science is still looking for smaller particles

 

[Jimmy]

What I'm asking is, what is the reason that you believe this?

Everything is made up of something?

 

[Jimmy]

Maybe

Do you think the space between atoms is made up of something or do you think it’s just a vacuum made up of nothing?

 

[ChristineM]

Do you think the space between atoms is made up of something or do you think it’s just a vacuum made up of nothing?

Yes.

It is empty space (vacuum), electromagnetic fields and quantum particles

 

[Jimmy]

Yes.

It is empty space (vacuum), electromagnetic fields and quantum particles

That’s what I think. I also think these quantum particles (electrons and protons) will eventually decay.