mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
How do you know that your choice to do so is true and not just subjective as something you think/feel?
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Does The Bible Contain Errors And Contradictions
- Thread starter Charles Philips
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How do you know that your choice to do so is true and not just subjective as something you think/feel?
Charles Philips
Banned
I can't show you spiritual things while your spiritual eyes are firmlyu closed, so it's quite silly to ask me to show you something while your eyes are firmly shut
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, I see perfectly well and now where to look, because I am right and you do it in a wrong. I am certain of that and you can see that, if you see like me. Right now you are blind, because I see that.
So if you didn't use any existing translations did you do the translating yourself?I didn't ... the translations are all within acceptable parameters. You can go here for an example:
Matthew 24:14 - Compare Bible Verse Translations
Compare Bible translations of Matthew 24:14 using all available Bible versions and commentary. "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come"www.biblestudytools.com
^ how convenient
I don't believe any of that. I have no reason to.
No gods are here speaking or writing, and to my knowledge none ever have - certainly not to me. What we have are words from people claiming to channel gods, which is proof of nothing more than that somebody had those thoughts and wrote them down.
What I said is that you'll never learn from me (nor I from you). I'm not trying to change you (as you are trying to change me). I'm perfectly fine with you believing the things you do. It's just not for me. I find no value there.
You'll probably understand that in terms of something lacking in me, but I see it in opposite terms. I feel complete without a god belief or a religion.
Quester
Member
Look, I can see where you are going, and, it's pointless. If you are concerned about the basic ideas being lost via translation, go here and tell us what you find:
On top of this, there are two approaches to the overall subject - one I call "the key" (the "return" itself) and the rest is descriptive information regarding how this will happen. The descriptive information is pointless because the key has been proven wrong - Jesus was supposed to come back in their time, and it never happened. Since the key is wrong, the descriptive information doesn't matter. My findings were backed by the work of a biblical scholar who ripped the entire subject apart. The bottom line he summed up like this:
"Jesus thought that the history of the world would come to a screeching
halt, that God would intervene in the affairs of this planet, overthrow the
forces of evil in a cosmic act of judgment and establish his utopian
Kingdom on Earth. And this was to happen within Jesus' own generation."
Jesus apocalyptic prophet. Dr. Bart Ehrman
If you want an intense explanation written by an expert scholar - ask him.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
You say "different parts of the world", but in reality, it's rather "different parts of the middle east and / or mediterranean".
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
What about those who set out to prove the bible and became atheists instead?
They don't count, I bet?
Banach-Tarski Paradox
*Banned*
Number 168 is interesting. I’ve had friends who have fulfilled that particular prophesy on multiple occasions. Here’s a movie about just one example, with lots of documentary footage, for folks whose worldviews allow for the use of video technology in religion and education.
IN THE KING OF PRUSSIA: THE TRIAL OF THE PLOWSHARES 8
IN THE KING OF PRUSSIA: THE TRIAL OF THE PLOWSHARES 8 takes us back to 1982 with Emile de Antonio's portrayal of the Plowshares 8 civic disobedience at General Electric's nuclear weapons plant in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. The group included Molly Rush, co-founder of the Merton Center. Posting of this cliip celebrates the April 13 visit of Martin Sheen, who plays the judge in the movie, to Pittsburgh, Pa and the Thomas Merton Center. YOU CAN'T HUG A CHILD WITH NUCLEAR ARMS!!!
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TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
What about the millions of christians who deconverted from christianity after studying the bible?
They don't count I bet?
Or the millions of both christians and non-christians who became muslims after studying the quran? They also don't count I bet?
Personal testimony is only "convincing" when you can use them to support your case, I bet?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Nope, that is a fail. You cannot even begin to claim that the Bible is "God's word" until you have given evidence for that. All you have is empty claims. When you refuse to support your claims you refute yourself.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What claims that I have made require any citations? You do not need to trust me. I have tried to engage you in a conversation where I would have to provide citations but you have just run away. Ooh, and I did cite a source that refuted your hundreds of prophecies claims but you ignored that.
PearlSeeker
Well-Known Member
Love in Christian context ("agape") is the greatest virtue of Christian life. You have it if you cultivate it. It is not the hearers who are righteous before God, but the doers.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
As a former devout Christian, my experience of forty+ years with other Christians is that the doers are the exception rather than the rule.
Love is the psychological state of valuing another enough to want to protect it, share with it, or otherwise promote its well-being. It is to be distinguished from infatuation (strong desire or preoccupation) and lust (libido, sexual attraction).
When all is said and done, more has been said than done.
McBell
Unbound
no more, no less that I believe your claim.
I am not about to delve into your claim denialism.
Funny how you do not have the same understanding when others do it.
Yes.
You claim the god they describe does not exist.
But at least you admit it is based solely on your own personal beliefs.
I can respect that.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
My spiritual eyes are not closed. They are wide open to the latest Revelation from God. I have no need of ancient texts that were written by men.
“The Book of God is wide open, and His Word is summoning mankind unto Him. No more than a mere handful, however, hath been found willing to cleave to His Cause, or to become the instruments for its promotion. These few have been endued with the Divine Elixir that can, alone, transmute into purest gold the dross of the world, and have been empowered to administer the infallible remedy for all the ills that afflict the children of men. No man can obtain everlasting life, unless he embraceth the truth of this inestimable, this wondrous, and sublime Revelation.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 183
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
My choice to do what?
All religious beliefs are based upon what we think and feel and they cannot be proven to be true, except to ourselves.