SkepticThinker
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It was the topic of the conversation you joined.OK… not my topic
Sorry, what?Well… if you hold a double standard, you are quite standing straight, are you? I guess it all depends on ones definition of “fallen”.
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It was the topic of the conversation you joined.OK… not my topic
Sorry, what?Well… if you hold a double standard, you are quite standing straight, are you? I guess it all depends on ones definition of “fallen”.
Seems like we are splicing and dicing—is there something deeper here? (I jumped in late and may have missed the point)
That someone can believe in it or not. I don't believe in it, but I accept you do. Do you accept that I believe differently than you?
^ This. I couldn't have said it better myself.
I have a feeling that a false accusation may be on the way.It was the topic of the conversation you joined.
Sorry, what?
LOL… this sounds so convoluted.You might learn something. But if you want to claim that by your standards that your God does not exist that is fine with me.
It was the topic of the conversation you joined.
Sorry, what?
That would be true.The problem is that if you claim something is just a belief and not really a fact, it won't in some cases stop you from acting on that belief and harming other humans.
OK. But I really do treat others the way I would want to be treated.Yeah, it is all beliefs. And you don't actually act in the real world, because it is all beliefs, so you didn't even answer at all. That is just a belief.
Jehovah's word has suffered contradictions, inconsistencies, translation errors and typos, and it's over all useless outside of culture and religious studies. Even it's moral highlights, like the so called Golden Rule, fall flat and fail when we really think things through.Everything I say is backed by Gods Word. Can you see the problem?
That reminds me when I was taught how all these different people and groups who weren't Abrahamic in anyway all acknowledged some unnamed god higher than the ones they acknowledged as highest. Which put the Christian god above those like Oden, who were worshipped as a ruler over all the other gods.But your problem is, that there is only One God. Yes there are 320 million false imaginary gods but only One true God, who is known by hundreds of different names by different people but He is the same God which all true Christians believe in.
OK. But I really do treat others the way I would want to be treated.
Go has not blinded anyone. God gave everyone free will to choose what to believe. Some people search for God but see no evidence for God so they don't believe in God. It is as simple as that.If God has blinded people, then it's not their fault that they're "reprobate." It's God's fault. What kind of a terrible God would do such a thing to the creations he supposedly cares for?
Heres some examples where that fails:OK. But I really do treat others the way I would want to be treated.
OK well, that's all well and good @Shadow Wolf but I'm not autistic. Someone asked me about MY beliefs and I answered. You do you.
I already said that.Yeah, but your belief is not without effect as it influences how you act.
I already said that.
I used being autistic to highlight where "treat others as you want to be treated" falls short because not everyone wants to be treated the same, and even things that may seem simple, harmless and friendly may be an uninvited source of discomfort.OK well, that's all well and good @Shadow Wolf but I'm not autistic. Someone asked me about MY beliefs and I answered. You do you.
Well, I can't help all that. I just use this as a general guideline. If I know someone is autistic, I treat them as I would want to be treated IF I WAS AUTISTIC. Otherwise, I just default and frankly it's up to them to let me know or deal with it.I used being autistic to highlight where "treat others as you want to be treated" falls short because not everyone wants to be treated the same, and even things that may seem simple, harmless and friendly may be an uninvited source of discomfort.
Well, I can't help all that. I just use this as a general guideline. If I know someone is autistic, I treat them as I would want to be treated IF I WAS AUTISTIC. Otherwise, I just default and frankly it's up to them to let me know or deal with it.