Does Trump have less political experience than any other President we've ever had?

[Sunstone]

Well?

A good politician is usually a greedy, corrupt, backstabbing liar who, nevertheless, is relatively adept at persuading people to peaceably work out their differences through bribery and compromise. A bad politician is usually a greedy, corrupt, backstabbing liar who lacks either the will or the competence to persuade people to peaceably work out their differences through bribery and compromise. In other words, the alternative to civil politics is civil war. Today, we have far more bad politicians in high office than good ones. At the head of the whole rotten pack is an authoritarian narcissist who has very little political experience and has never shown much competence in uniting people. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[suncowiam]

His record in business is what it is, & gives some insight.
But his losses pale in comparison to Hilda's penchant for
war & playing policeman to the world, for example.

If we're talking about wars, Trump and Hilda endorsed the Iraq war but of course, both him and Hilda denied it.

Trump wasn't in a position of power as Hilda before the election, so I find the comparison unfair. He was not a politician and Hilda was not a business person.

But, we're at best opining... Alright, I have to head home. Nice chatting with you.

 

[McBell]

Well?

I dunno.
How much political experience did George Washington have?

 

[Revoltingest]

Meanwhile you're making claims about Hillary without any support whatsoever.

Since she is out of power, I didn't see the need to rehash her record.

But are you now claiming that because you see no such evidence from me, that this justifies
your claiming that what's possible & unevidenced is therefore is actually happening with Trump?

I'd rather not be some imagined low standard to justify wanton disinformation.

You claim her losses would have been huge, you have no evidence.

What I said was that she'd be more skilled at pissing money down some rat hole.
Perhaps you missed the humor here, eh?
It was a comment on how both she & he would waste money, but that she was more
politically experienced & skilled. Trump, having no political experience, is now clumsily
careening from misstep to misstep.

You compare it to her statements which did not guarantee your accusations in any way, and you're ignoring Trump's statements and the many lawsuits against his shady practices and failed businesses because it's conveniently not Hillary.

I'll remind you that Hillary voted to invade Iraq, & voted to continue both wars.
Those were very expensive rat holes.
You aren't going to demand evidence of this very public record, are you?

 

[Revoltingest]

If we're talking about wars, Trump and Hilda endorsed the Iraq war but of course, both him and Hilda denied it.

Trump wasn't in a position of power as Hilda before the election, so I find the comparison unfair. He was not a politician and Hilda was not a business person.

But, we're at best opining... Alright, I have to head home. Nice chatting with you.

Oh, good.
I could use a break.
People have been posting so fast & furious that I can hardly keep track of whom to respond to.

 

[idav]

Well?

The first to not have any political experience or not at least do some military service for the Commander and Chief role. Lacking experience isn't a good thing, we see his major flop on his executive order that show he could use some law skills.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Since she is out of power, I didn't see the need to rehash her record.

But are you now claiming that because you see no such evidence from me, that this justifies
your claiming that what's possible & unevidenced is therefore is actually happening with Trump?

I'd rather not be some imagined low standard to justify wanton disinformation.

What I said was that she'd be more skilled at pissing money down some rat hole.
Perhaps you missed the humor here, eh?
It was a comment on how both she & he would waste money, but that she was more
politically experienced & skilled. Trump, having no political experience, is now clumsily
careening from misstep to misstep.

I'll remind you that Hillary voted to invade Iraq, & voted to continue both wars.
Those were very expensive rat holes.
You aren't going to demand evidence of this very public record, are you?

I think you have a double standard for Hillary, my friend. I don't believe Trump has shown himself to be any less war mongering and abrasive. And it doesn't take skill to dump money down a hole, but Trump's rat holes have people in them being pissed on.

 

[roger1440]

Well?

Trump is the first American president with both no political and military experience. He is also the richest president and the oldest. He has probably been mocked by Saturday Night Live more than any other president too. He has been married more times than any other president, three times.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm sure Hillary would've been much more skilled at deceiving
us, taking our money, & pissing it down some rat holes.

"But Hillary would've been worse!" is surely becoming a harder sell each passing day.

 

[Shad]

And privileged.
And sexist.
And micro-aggression.

Anything you post requires a trigger warning disclaimer.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think you have a double standard for Hillary....

Then you misunderstand my simultaneous criticism of their both pissing money down rat holes.
The only difference was that Hillary would be more skilled at it....here government experience, you know.

....I don't believe Trump has shown himself to be any less war mongering and abrasive. And it doesn't take skill to dump money down a hole, but Trump's rat holes have people in them being pissed on.

The difference....
Trump hasn't shown himself to be less of a hawk.
Hillary has a record of being a hawk.
Do you believe that the "possible" is equal to the "actual"?
I don't.
Who knows....he might even be more of a hawk.
But I gave him a 64.5% chance of being better than she.a

 

[Revoltingest]

"But Hillary would've been worse!" is surely becoming a harder sell each passing day.

Of course!
The devil we know is always worse than the one that got away.
(I just made that saying up.)

 

[Revoltingest]

Anything you post requires a trigger warning disclaimer.

No kidding.
I actually had a staffer accuse me of trying to drive her insane with personal attacks.
Who knew that a disagreement about issues was so dangerous, & that this mild
mannered groundskeeper is so malevolent (intentionally so).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Much in the same way the Wall is going to be funded?

Talk about pissing money down a rat hole.

 

[ajay0]

He might have pulled some political strings to get some favourable business deals and also perhaps to get out of sex scandals brought about by his boorish attitude towards women. Maybe he thought that that is all the political experience he needed.

 

[Stevicus]

Of course, it's arguable whether "experience in politics" is an attribute that bodes well for the governed.

Yeah, I never could understand the reasoning behind the notion that "experience in politics" should be considered a good thing. A lot of candidates try to sell themselves as political "outsiders," untouched by special interests, cronyism, etc.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, I never could understand the reasoning behind the notion that "experience in politics" should be considered a good thing. A lot of candidates try to sell themselves as political "outsiders," untouched by special interests, cronyism, etc.

Such experience can let them do their job more efficiently.
This is possibly good....as long as they're not pursuing evil.
But there's also the possibility of....you know.....Hitler.

 

[Stevicus]

Such experience can let them do their job more efficiently.
This is possibly good....as long as they're not pursuing evil.
But there's also the possibility of....you know.....Hitler.

Yeah, I suppose. But come to think of it, Hitler had no experience in politics either. I don't think he ever served in any public office prior to becoming Chancellor of Germany.

But there are many skills associated with being a politician - giving speeches, interviews, the art of persuasion, negotiation, compromise, and other such skills which can be learned/acquired without actually holding public office. With some politicians who have latent popularity as celebrities, their appeal to the masses on that basis outweighed whatever lack of experience they might have had.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah, I suppose. But come to think of it, Hitler had no experience in politics either. I don't think he ever served in any public office prior to becoming Chancellor of Germany.

But there are many skills associated with being a politician - giving speeches, interviews, the art of persuasion, negotiation, compromise, and other such skills which can be learned/acquired without actually holding public office. With some politicians who have latent popularity as celebrities, their appeal to the masses on that basis outweighed whatever lack of experience they might have had.

He had a lot of experience in organizing & motivating people.
And he learned more on the job.
Had he won the war, I'm sure he'd have been quite efficient at doing what he was want to do.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

In my book, the desire to pursue a career in politics automatically makes one unsuitable for the job.