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Donald Trump For Nobel Peace Prize 2018!

dfnj

Well-Known Member
You do realize that is a self limiting strategy, don't you? Many developing countries will keep their wages as low as they can for as long as they can. It can't go on forever.

If the Yuan were allowed to float against the dollar it would increase in value until our factories returned. Why are you against the American worker?

I don't have a problem with developing countries keeping their wages low. I do have a problem with Chinese pegging the Yuan to the dollar.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
No i did not say that. I'm dumb when it comes to political stuff so i don't know enough to make a judgement about that.But I do know Trump is not God.

Me too! I completely ignore ALL political news. It's all just propaganda nonsense:

 

esmith

Veteran Member
Richard Nixon's 1972 visit to China - Wikipedia
Early in his first term, Nixon, through his National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, sent subtle overtures hinting at warmer relations to the PRC government. After a series of these overtures by both countries, Kissinger flew on secret diplomatic missions to Beijing in 1971, where he met with Premier Zhou Enlai. On July 15, 1971, the President shocked the world by announcing on live television that he would visit the PRC the following year.
Furthermore, Nixon did not threaten Zhou with destruction prior to the meeting.
Furthermore, Nixon did not personally attack Zhou in the months before the trip.
Furthermore, Nixon did not go to China to make any demands.​

Seems like someone had decided they don't remember what they wrote...Let's take a look.
you wrote:
Trump has no sense of history, diplomacy or reality. You don't start a negotiation with the two leaders meeting.
I answered
Guess you don't study history....
Nixon arrives in China for talks - Feb 21, 1972 - HISTORY.com
Want to try again.
You did say "You don't start a negotiation with the two leaders meeting" correct.
But they did start a negotiation...that's two leader meeting is it not?
However try and spin it any way you want. I really don't care.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Seems like someone had decided they don't remember what they wrote...Let's take a look.
you wrote:

I answered

You did say "You don't start a negotiation with the two leaders meeting" correct.
But they did start a negotiation...that's two leader meeting is it not?
However try and spin it any way you want. I really don't care.
Nixon went to China after Kissinger made several trips there.
Nixon did not go to China to get China to disarm.
Nixon did not go to China to discuss lifting sanctions.
Nixon did not go to China to present an ultimatum.

If you believe the purpose of Trump's meeting is the same as was the purpose of Nixon's ...
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Nixon went to China after Kissinger made several trips there.
Nixon did not go to China to get China to disarm.
Nixon did not go to China to discuss lifting sanctions.
Nixon did not go to China to present an ultimatum.

If you believe the purpose of Trump's meeting is the same as was the purpose of Nixon's ...
Sorry you don't seem to understand.
You flatly said, and I quote "You don't start a negotiation with the two leaders meeting."
Question did Nixon meet with Shou Enliai?
Question, did they talk?
That is all you have to answer since you statement did not have any qualifiers in it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Please quote where I said "Nixon did everything wrong".
I did not think that a smiley was needed for such blatant sarcasm. By Trump's reckoning it appears that Nixon did everything wrong. He did not follow what seems to be Trump's "Art of the Deal" at least not in the way that Trump practiced it.

But don't worry, I have been in the same place. One can get an overdose of unreasonable people and it can be difficult to tell when someone is poeing.
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
If Trump got a Nobel Prize it would severely diminish the nobility and standing of this eminent award in my opinion.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
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Sorry you don't seem to understand.
You flatly said, and I quote "You don't start a negotiation with the two leaders meeting."
Question did Nixon meet with Shou Enliai?
Question, did they talk?
That is all you have to answer since you statement did not have any qualifiers in it.
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ETA: I don't know why the bowing emojis aren't showing, but that's what they are.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I did not think that a smiley was needed for such blatant sarcasm. By Trump's reckoning it appears that Nixon did everything wrong. He did not follow what seems to be Trump's "Art of the Deal" at least not in the way that Trump practiced it.

But don't worry, I have been in the same place. One can get an overdose of unreasonable people and it can be difficult to tell when someone is poeing.
My apologies. I should have been more aware that you were the poster.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
If the Yuan were allowed to float against the dollar it would increase in value until our factories returned. Why are you against the American worker?

I don't have a problem with developing countries keeping their wages low. I do have a problem with Chinese pegging the Yuan to the dollar.
What makes you think that would happen? Do you have a link to a well respected economist with expertise in that area to support this claim? I have noticed that you do have a problem telling what sources are valid and which ones are not valid in the past. Find a source and I will vet it for you.
 
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